Forum Rules and Etiquette

Our mission ...

This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

This forum has been around in this format for over 15 years. These rules and guidelines help us maintain a healthy and active community, and we moderate the forum to keep things on track. Please familiarize yourself with these rules and guidelines.

Rule 1: Remain civil and respectful

There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.

Rule 2: Stay close to the original topic being discussed
  • If you are starting a new thread choose a reasonable sub-forum to start your thread. (If you choose incorrectly don't worry, we can fix that.)
  • If you are responding to a thread, stay on topic - the original poster was trying to achieve something. You can always start a new thread instead of potentially "hijacking" an existing thread.

Rule 3: Contribute something meaningful

To put things in engineering terms, we value a high signal to noise ratio. Coming here should not be a waste of time.
  • This is not a chat room. If you are taking less than 30 seconds to make a post then you are probably doing something wrong. A post should be on topic, clear, and contribute something meaningful to the discussion. If people read your posts and feel that their time as been wasted, they will stop reading your posts. Worse yet, they will stop visiting and we'll lose their experience and contributions.
  • Do not bump threads.
  • Do not "necro-post" unless you are following up to a specific person on a specific thread. And even then, that person may have moved on. Just start a new thread for your related topic.
  • Use the Private Message system for posts that are targeted at a specific person.

Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

Here are some obvious examples of when you should not reply to a thread and use the PM system instead:
  • "PM Sent!": Do not tell the rest of us that you sent a PM ... the forum software will tell the other person that they have a PM waiting.
  • "How much is shipping to ....": This is a very specific and directed question that is not of interest to anybody else.

Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.

Reporting problematic posts

If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.

If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.

New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.

Other suggestions
  • Use Google, books, or other definitive sources. There is a lot of information out there.
  • Don't make people guess at what you are trying to say; we are not mind readers. Be clear and concise.
  • Spelling and grammar are not rated, but they do make a post easier to read.
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    IRC chat: #vc on

    We've got an IRC channel for realtime chat about vintage computers.
    You can usually find someone on the channel anytime.

    To connect, you'll need an IRC client and the following information:

    Channel: #vc
    Nickname: Please use your forum username!

    See you there!

    "It's a me-too, 8-bit machine with good graphics and a disk system nobody will support."
    -- Bill Gates, about the Sony SMC-70 with the new 3.5" floppy drives (InfoWorld; June 7, 1982)

    Just a reminder - we are still using IRC for group chat. There are usually a few regulars signed in, and it would be great to meet more of you there.

    A lot of programs have IRC capability. Some of my favorites include:
    • mIRC - full featured Windows client
    • XChat - available for Linux
    • Pidgin - this instant messaging client supports IRC in addition to standard IM protocols. Open source and available for Windows and Linux
    • IRCjr - talk about vintage hardware while on vintage hardware! Runs very well on 8088 class machines with limited memory. Requires DOS, either on a real machine or in an emulator.
    • LeetIRC - another client for vintage machines! Runs on 8088 class machines, written in QuickBasic

    Come drop in and say hello! If you need help getting setup with IRC we'd be happy to get you started.



      Bump ..

      The IRC channel is still around! Interested in talking about vintage computers in realtime? Sign on!

      The regulars include Ahm, Jorg, Carlsson, Discomeats and a few others you will readily recognize.



        Thanks to Mike's reminder, the number of participants has increased by 30-50% in the last few days. There is still room for more. Today (European time) we even managed to stay remarkably on-topic for over 3,5 hours.
        Anders Carlsson


          Just started popping in the IRC room.


            C'mon everybody! It's CHAT! About VINTAGE COMPUTERS! The words are few and far in between, could use some more people in there! Let's go!

            IRC, FTP, HTTP and Quake!

            Check us out (we have cookies)!


              Oh, cool with users
              I'm joining!


                Bumpitty bump bump!

                Hey guys! Don't forget about the IRC room! We have lots of fun talking about anything from Airplanes to Zoo's with the occasional computer talk thrown in!

                Grab an IRC client and come talk to us at /server on /join #vc !
                Last edited by mikerm; January 11, 2011, 07:56 PM.
                An equal opportunity collector.


                  By the way, for those of you with (non-vintage) Macs, the Adium 1.4 beta also includes native IRC support, which seems to work nicely so far (at least for me) . For Adium 1.3, you'll still need an add-on.


                    Nice, didn't know about that.

                    Other highly recommended clients:

                    Windows: mIRC -
                    Mac: xChat Aqua -
                    DOS: mbbrutmans DOS client of course!
                    Linux: xChat/IRCII/etc (lots of good ones)

                    Come join us!
                    An equal opportunity collector.


                      And not to slight Mike Chambers who started the TCP/IP programming with QuickBasic craze, LeetIRC ( works under DOS too.


                        We've moved to a different network. Connection details are at the top of the thread.

                        "It's a me-too, 8-bit machine with good graphics and a disk system nobody will support."
                        -- Bill Gates, about the Sony SMC-70 with the new 3.5" floppy drives (InfoWorld; June 7, 1982)


                          Why don't you keep the channel in IRCNet?


                            Because Slashnet is working fine for us?


                              ... never mind mods delete this post.....
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