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This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

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We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.


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If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.


New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.


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    Stuff from the past

    Here is a list of the computers that Iíve managed to hang onto
    over the years. I also have a vintage calculator collection but
    calling any of them computers would be kind of a stretch.

    SWT CT-1024 TV Typewriter II Not really a computer but it was the interface to my Altair
    Mark-8 Not a computer yet. Just a pile of ICís, circuit boards, LEDís,
    components etc.
    Altair 8800
    Commodore Pet 2001 w/chicklet keyboard and built in cassette.
    Commodore Vic-20
    Commodore 64 w/ C2N cassette unit
    Timex Sinclair 1000
    Computer Designed Systems Inc MG081/K
    Mystery computer - computer, keyboard and printer
    all in one unit about the size of a big typewriter.
    connectors - 18 pin single row C-CRT, 34 pin FDD
    3 din connectors - Light Pen, TV, ACMT, D-shell RS323
    Z80 processor
    Anybody know anything about this computer??
    ALTOS 587T 8086
    ADAM family computer w/upgrade kit
    TI 99/4A
    Osborne Executive
    w/complete set of manuals and software.
    Sharp Scientific Computer EL-5500-T
    hand held, runs basic
    Hewlett Packard 75D
    Worldís first PDA?
    IBM PC-1
    64K, Single sided 160K FDD, Monochrome Monitor
    Spent a zillion dollars in upgrades for this thing.
    Expansion chassis, multifunction boards, RGB monitor
    Hard drives, on and on.
    IBM PC-JR
    I once had enough of these JRís to build a book shelf,
    using JRís instead of the concrete blocks.
    IBM 5140 PC Convertible
    IBM Portable
    IBM PS/1
    IBM PS/2 Mod 25 8086
    I got rid of all my other PS/2ís. No room to keep.
    Mac Classic
    Used it for a door stop
    Panasonic Senior Partner Portable
    Compaq Plus Portable
    Olivetti portable
    Panasonic Business Partner laptop (80286)
    This was my first laptop; now retired to my collection

    RELATED COMPUTER STUFF

    Heathkit Z/89 computer keyboard.
    I originally had the entire computer, but someone sawed off
    the keyboard. (wanted it detachable) The thing wasnít working
    so I took out the circuit boards and trashed the console. (Ouch!)
    That was before I discovered JB Weld.
    Heathkit H77
    Dual 5 1/4 inch Floppy Unit
    Heathkit H47
    Dual 8 inch Floppy Disk Unit
    Too heavy for a good boat anchor
    Might want to sell this some day.
    ASR-35 Teletype
    Want to eventually connect this to the Altair
    Wilson Labs MWX-1000 Winchester disk analyzer.
    Ligo Research
    - Angel intelligent print buffer
    Quickdata External hard drive unit
    Is this the worlds smallest 5 1/4 hard drive (512K)???
    TRS-80 X-pad
    Iíll give this up if I donít find a TRS-80 soon.

    I also have lots of computer junk (boards, cards, chips, drives, etc.)
    Iíll make a list some day in case anybody can use some of it.

    I have a collection of vintage computer books, manuals and magazines.
    Iíll append that later also.
    Old dog, missing a few flip flops,

    Dave

    #2
    That's a pretty outstanding collection!

    Is your Mark-8 one of the originals or a recent recreation?

    Erik
    The Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace
    The Vintage Computer

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      Mark-8

      The (pile of parts) mark-8 is part old and part new.
      I bought all the IC's, the Radio Electronics plans, and misc components back in the early 1970's. The printed circuit boards, leds, 8008 chip, switches, and the home made cabinet are new.
      Old dog, missing a few flip flops,

      Dave

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