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Mt. Dew Drinkers!

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    Maybe caffeine and rifles are two of the neccessities in life, not to be messed with.

    Beer is something else I can't drink. Once I forced myself to drink one beer, but much due to there was nothing else to offer (not even water, or at least not without asking specifically). Wine and cider yes, stronger alcohol OK (but to a certain limit!), but not beer. Some people would even call me a wuss for preferring tea and wine over coffee and beer.
    Anders Carlsson


      Originally posted by carlsson
      Dr. Pepper, root beer etc are very rare here
      I visited one of the immigrant's shops yesterday, but they had limited the exotic soda department to Cherry Coke, Dr. Pepper, some variations on Fanta and a few 1.5L PET bottles of other soft drinks like apple, grape etc. Interestingly enough, they have foods from the whole Middle East, East Europe, a little from India and China etc, but the drinks department seems to mainly consist of German and US soft drinks.

      They had a large selection of tea though, from both Ceylon, other parts of the Middle East to even Brazil, which I thought was a strictly coffee exporting country (but it might've been an exception to the normal case).
      Anders Carlsson


        I used to go through 2 cases of 24 coke a week, during university.

        now i can't stand the taste of pop ')

        The vic rocks!


          anders wrote:
          Wine and cider yes, stronger alcohol OK (but to a certain limit!), but not beer. Some people would even call me a wuss for preferring tea and wine over coffee and beer
          I am like you a bit, in that i am not into beer at all, but oh baby do i love red wine!

          The vic rocks!


            Originally posted by vic user
            I used to go through 2 cases of 24 coke a week, during university.

            now i can't stand the taste of pop ')

            Do you have any teeth left?
            What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
            Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
            Boxed apps and games for the above systems
            Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems


              yes, but many fillings

              The vic rocks!


                "carlsson" wrote:

                > They had a large selection of tea though, from both Ceylon...

                Was one of those Dilmah (think that's how they spell it). Think
                that's one of the teas from Ceylon, or was this the sort of tea
                brought by the gallon (not tea bag style!

                Don't know about that food from the middle east. I know it's
                fine for those people, though there have been some Aussies
                being sick (my Aunty for one) over it. Guess it's the same as
                them trying Vegiemite!

                CP/M User.
                Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3


                  "Unknown_K" wrote:

                  > Do you have any teeth left?

                  I'd be more interested to see how hyped up they might

                  CP/M User.
                  Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3


                    Yes, all the tea is loose in a big bag, not packaged into small tea bags. I can't recall the brands - I did not pay that much attention.

                    I think most kinds of food can be had by most kinds of people, excluding those who have a medical condition. Preparing it in the right way, be a little careful with strong spices for the inexperienced and of course, knowing what does what should be a few of the key issues. The latter certainly is my biggest problem if I am to go serious shopping among shelves of things I can read the English/Swedish translation of but still don't know why and when it is used. Maybe they're selling cooking books like "Eastern for Western" as well if one asks, but right now I more like to add an accent to a planned meal rather than building it completely around an Eastern recipe.
                    Anders Carlsson