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Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

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Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.


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If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.


New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.


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    The New Forums

    This is a thread to discuss the new forums. The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.

    Please keep it civil and try to help each other find stuff that may have moved.

    Thanks!
    The Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace
    The Vintage Computer

    #2
    Is there something going on with the Sites Time stamp? I created a new topic about 10 mins ago and when I chick on the "new Topics" tab under the forums tab My topic is nowhere in the list. Under my profile the topic shows up as created.

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      #3
      I don't like how every forum and web site update seems to be required by law to increase white space and reduce the amount of useful content displayed on the screen, but I guess there's no point in complaining about that here.

      I also noticed that clicking on a subscribed topic now brings you to the first page of the thread instead of the last. Hopefully that can be fixed.

      I'd also like to see a return of the blue and white color scheme. This new (default?) monochromatic scheme is bland.

      But still far better of a transition that other forums I belong to which switched from vBulletin to XenForo.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Al Kossow
        all the world lives on a phone
        Doesn't mean everyone needs to side with stupid......

        And vwestlife is right, I noticed it defaulting to the first page on posts as well.

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          #5
          I would like to clarify something through song and dance now that the forums have been updated

          https://youtu.be/WvIRsDHFiis

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            #6
            -There is an insane amount of side padding on high resolution displays
            -The social networking SHARE and TWEET buttons seem a little redundant on each post
            -The rocking me to the last post on a page gets annoying fast, especially if I have never entered the thread before and wanted to start on Post 1.
            -Agreed, bring back the old color scheme
            -I do enjoy the fact that we now have sub and super script buttons.
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            Okay I'll stop now. Other than the usual tweaks any forum gets after a major update it seems okay so far

            Edited: GAH! avatar sizes changed and signatures don't appear!
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              #7
              Oh, I see that editing a post too fast or multiple times auto-flags it as possible spam and holds it for approval.
              Yeah, no. That's not flying with me at all.
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                #8
                Are there any different themes available to us? I didn't see any.. Tiny fonts, huge borders... plus bad eyesight.... sigh...


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                  #9
                  Of course, everything is broken now in SeaMonkey 1.1/Firefox 2. Even the login won't run as is seems to be totally script now. Is there a normal login page hidden somewhere?

                  Every... single... post... has a Facebook and Twitter logo? Why are we advertising for these two companies?

                  Originally posted by Al Kossow
                  all the world lives on a phone
                  It does seem like the entire world is expected to act like teenage girls these days.

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                    #10
                    Can someone please point out where I can find links to:
                    #1 - show unread posts
                    #2 - mark all posts as read

                    I find it incredible that new forums always seem to either hide or drop these features... sigh...

                    If you can find them (and tell me) - thank you in advance!

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                      #11
                      This new "update" completely broke the site for me and now I can't even log in on my desktop anymore. Guess optimizing the site so people can use the forums from their toy smartphones is more important than creating something that actually works.

                      Yippee. Thank you so much.
                      Vintage computer systems and peripherals I'm currently looking for:
                      IBM PS/2 Model P70, Compaq Contura 3/25, Any Toshiba Libretto laptop from the Libretto 50CT up to the 110CT, Commodore 1541 disk drive in working condition.

                      Send a PM if you are interested in selling any of these items to me. Thanks!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by vwestlife View Post
                        I don't like how every forum and web site update seems to be required by law to increase white space and reduce the amount of useful content displayed on the screen, but I guess there's no point in complaining about that here.

                        I also noticed that clicking on a subscribed topic now brings you to the first page of the thread instead of the last. Hopefully that can be fixed.

                        I'd also like to see a return of the blue and white color scheme. This new (default?) monochromatic scheme is bland.

                        But still far better of a transition that other forums I belong to which switched from vBulletin to XenForo.
                        Honestly, if they were going to screw up the site this badly they might as well have switched to XenForo. Aside from the fact that vBulletin 4 and XenForo actually work, I have been enjoying the XenForo forum layout over at TalkWeather. TalkWeather works perfectly on all of my computers and VCFed did when they were still using vBulletin 4. This on the other hand....
                        Vintage computer systems and peripherals I'm currently looking for:
                        IBM PS/2 Model P70, Compaq Contura 3/25, Any Toshiba Libretto laptop from the Libretto 50CT up to the 110CT, Commodore 1541 disk drive in working condition.

                        Send a PM if you are interested in selling any of these items to me. Thanks!

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                          #13


                          Yeah loggin in was a real problem. The logon screen kept disappearing while I was typing my password. Took at least 6 tries

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                            #14
                            In my opinion, this is how a proper forum should look and work: http://forums.mozillazine.org/ Yea, that site has not changed in forever, but it is still active.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by SomeGuy View Post
                              In my opinion, this is how a proper forum should look and work: http://forums.mozillazine.org/ Yea, that site has not changed in forever, but it is still active.
                              That site is a perfect example of how the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" holds true today.
                              Vintage computer systems and peripherals I'm currently looking for:
                              IBM PS/2 Model P70, Compaq Contura 3/25, Any Toshiba Libretto laptop from the Libretto 50CT up to the 110CT, Commodore 1541 disk drive in working condition.

                              Send a PM if you are interested in selling any of these items to me. Thanks!

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