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This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

This forum has been around in this format for over 15 years. These rules and guidelines help us maintain a healthy and active community, and we moderate the forum to keep things on track. Please familiarize yourself with these rules and guidelines.


Remain civil and respectful

There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.


Stay close to the original topic being discussed
  • If you are starting a new thread choose a reasonable sub-forum to start your thread. (If you choose incorrectly don't worry, we can fix that.)
  • If you are responding to a thread, stay on topic - the original poster was trying to achieve something. You can always start a new thread instead of potentially "hijacking" an existing thread.



Contribute something meaningful

To put things in engineering terms, we value a high signal to noise ratio. Coming here should not be a waste of time.
  • This is not a chat room. If you are taking less than 30 seconds to make a post then you are probably doing something wrong. A post should be on topic, clear, and contribute something meaningful to the discussion. If people read your posts and feel that their time as been wasted, they will stop reading your posts. Worse yet, they will stop visiting and we'll lose their experience and contributions.
  • Do not bump threads.
  • Do not "necro-post" unless you are following up to a specific person on a specific thread. And even then, that person may have moved on. Just start a new thread for your related topic.
  • Use the Private Message system for posts that are targeted at a specific person.


"PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

Here are some obvious examples of when you should not reply to a thread and use the PM system instead:
  • "PM Sent!": Do not tell the rest of us that you sent a PM ... the forum software will tell the other person that they have a PM waiting.
  • "How much is shipping to ....": This is a very specific and directed question that is not of interest to anybody else.


Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.


Reporting problematic posts

If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.

If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.


New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.


Other suggestions
  • Use Google, books, or other definitive sources. There is a lot of information out there.
  • Don't make people guess at what you are trying to say; we are not mind readers. Be clear and concise.
  • Spelling and grammar are not rated, but they do make a post easier to read.
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    By the way, happy birthday!

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      Just wanted to say the site looks fine now. The white space issue seems to have been addressed, and as I observed earlier the Grunge theme provides a pleasant view to me.
      ... Just wanted to balance out all the kvetchers.
      Edit: my avatar is gone again! Sigh...

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        Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
        The outline color atound the avatar is dependant on your theme. I have a dark theme so the border i see on avatars is black.
        Is there any way to customize the color of the border around avatars? I tried changing border colors in the customize menu and it didn't seem to change anything at all on any pages.

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          Originally posted by vwestlife View Post
          It's funny how that is turned off by default, but the option to send you an e-mail wishing you a happy birthday is turned on by default!
          I am just glad it can be turned off. The week of my birthday I must receive 100 e-mails from forums and random websites. This year I received a Birthday email from a vendor I used in 2004, once. They have never sent an email since the shipment confirmation back then.

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            Originally posted by vol.2 View Post

            Is there any way to customize the color of the border around avatars? I tried changing border colors in the customize menu and it didn't seem to change anything at all on any pages.
            I dont know and I really would make myself frustrated if I tried messing with it so I just settled on the DARK theme.


            I like how they send pointless birthday emails but no coupon codes or price reductions (vendors).

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              Originally posted by vwestlife View Post
              It's funny how that is turned off by default, but the option to send you an e-mail wishing you a happy birthday is turned on by default!
              That's okay--my profile now states that I was born on January 1, 1000. I knew I was in my sunset years, but that's ridiculous.

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                Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post

                That's okay--my profile now states that I was born on January 1, 1000. I knew I was in my sunset years, but that's ridiculous.
                Hey, we have the same birthday! Small world.

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                  I still find it annoying we don't get locations shown. I suppose folks now need to add them to posts for help etc.
                  Dave
                  G4UGM

                  Looking for Analog Computers, Drum Plotters, and Graphics Terminals

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                    The poster's location can be seen in their user profile that's if they have entered it, But yes i agree i'd much rather see the location instead of the useless reputation bar in post's, Also i don't think the join date or post count is really necessary in the post's either, That can also be seen in the user profile of the poster. It all adds to unnecessary white space in the post's, I turned off avatars and signatures years ago.

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                      I dont mind the avatars and join dates with post counts. That how all the bet forums are as well. But I agree about having the posters location back instead of a useless reputation bar.

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                        How do we report a user? I have a user who signed up today and sent me message with nothing in them.

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                          edit: and I know I posted several times to remove the like button and the stupid bar.. (AND I MEANT IT) someone must think its funny as they are hitting LIKE to every post I make.. so I have a stalker now... Super.... I miss the old forum layout

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                            Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
                            edit: and I know I posted several times to remove the like button and the stupid bar.. (AND I MEANT IT) someone must think its funny as they are hitting LIKE to every post I make.. so I have a stalker now... Super.... I miss the old forum layout
                            Looks like you're going to need a new barber pole.
                            Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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                              Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
                              edit: and I know I posted several times to remove the like button and the stupid bar.. (AND I MEANT IT) someone must think its funny as they are hitting LIKE to every post I make.. so I have a stalker now... Super.... I miss the old forum layout
                              Which is precisely why that sort of thing was tried and discarded at Winworld a long time ago. It is useless and gets abused.

                              BTW, I personally see the borked avatars as a huge issue, as there are many old/literally dead accounts that will never get that reset.

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                                By the way the user who created the account today and sent blank messages, hasn't replied to my messages and most likely is spamming the like button is user ID "amd"

                                Again, how do I report a user? I dont see something as important as this but plenty of superfluous and unnecessary things are on by default.

                                To be honest why do we have the option for anonymous lurkers? Lots of forums have it so you need to join to view content. Why is someone who is not a member allowed to "like" anything? This is already getting abused and was not smart to implement.

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