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    Originally posted by VileR View Post
    About the issue of posts taking up way too much vertical space - many of you don't like it, so I've added a small fix to the style override I was working on.
    Yea, this is essentially what was needed. I didn't know if CSS alone could rearrange the elements from a vertical layout to a hybrid horizontal one as you have here.

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      Originally posted by VileR View Post
      You can go to your profile, then 'Customize My Style' on the left -> 'Content' -> 'Text', and pick a different font family and size.
      I tried this because the font size is WAY too small for me to be able to read any of the content. And for a half-second, I saw the setting, then it vanished and was replaced by options to change the heading, with no 'Content'>'Text' option visible to click on.

      Admittedly, this was from a Pi, because that's the only system with a screen resolution which I can use with the site as it is, so it might be the Pi.

      ON EDIT: Found it!!! But the 'save' doesn't seem to do anything.

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        Originally posted by VileR View Post
        You can go to your profile, then 'Customize My Style' on the left -> 'Content' -> 'Text', and pick a different font family and size.
        Those settings don't take for me. They apply while I'm on that page after I hit Save, but after that they revert back to what they were before.
        Offering a bounty for:
        - A working Sanyo MBC-775 or Logabax 1600
        - Music Construction Set, IBM Music Feature edition (has red sticker on front stating IBM Music Feature)

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          Originally posted by whartung View Post
          The red box, made manifest by the identity fields, is what I think folks are talking about.
          Understood.

          I don't easily have control over the contents of that box. Or I just haven't found it yet.

          We were able to remove the social media stuff, but I can't see how to remove the reputation bar, etc. or add other fields (like location.)

          The Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace
          The Vintage Computer

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            Somehow or another I inherited this thing and I don't know how to get rid of it. Any suggestions?

            Re.JPG
            Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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              Originally posted by liqmat View Post
              Yet another post about the disgust I have for the post approval problems currently. Edited my item three times in the marketplace and now it sits unapproved for almost three hours. This is just painful. I mean seriously, can't the admins set a rule for long time members to be exempt from this?
              We have a few moderators. There is no "duty rotation" as we are volunteers. Usually posts get moderated in a reasonable amount of time, but sometimes there are gaps.

              I can't find the setting that is causing your particular problem. Try not to repeated edit the same post in a short period of time until we figure out if this feature of vBulletin can be modified. And please, again, keep it civil - we are volunteers.

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                Originally posted by mbbrutman View Post

                We have a few moderators. There is no "duty rotation" as we are volunteers. Usually posts get moderated in a reasonable amount of time, but sometimes there are gaps.

                I can't find the setting that is causing your particular problem. Try not to repeated edit the same post in a short period of time until we figure out if this feature of vBulletin can be modified. And please, again, keep it civil - we are volunteers.
                Wasn't criticizing the volunteers. more frustration at the situation. I hope in the future there can be an exception for long time members.

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                  Noticed a bug here, the list of threads does not properly reflect the most recent post. For example, it shows Trixter for me on this post, but that was yesterday, and not reflecting anything from today.

                  https://i.imgur.com/xbLsXnL.png
                  IBM PS/2 Model 25, NEC V30 8MHz, 640KB RAM, ATI VGA Wonder XL, 2GB SSD, Ethernet, DR DOS 6/GeOS, Xircom PE3 Ethernet

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                    OK, when I click new posts, and say this thread is listed, when I open it, it goes to the first post, and then I have to remember what page I was on the last time I read in here.
                    Am I doing something wrong?

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                      Yep, this thread is broken as described by @dabone.

                      Mike

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                        Originally posted by Agent Orange View Post
                        Somehow or another I inherited this thing and I don't know how to get rid of it. Any suggestions?

                        Re.JPG
                        Bump.

                        Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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                          Learn to love it?

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                            Originally posted by VileR View Post

                            Current CSS override file: [ATTACH]n1206749[/ATTACH]
                            After chatting with Erik, I'm hoping to turn it into an actual vB5 theme, as that would be preferred. But in the meantime, it can be applied on the user end with a browser extension like Stylish (Firefox/Chrome/Pale Moon).
                            This helps a little, thank you.

                            Hoping someday a more permanent solution might be found.
                            Last edited by Trixter; May 2, 2021, 06:44 PM.
                            Offering a bounty for:
                            - A working Sanyo MBC-775 or Logabax 1600
                            - Music Construction Set, IBM Music Feature edition (has red sticker on front stating IBM Music Feature)

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                              Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
                              Learn to love it?
                              I guess I'm going to have to.

                              Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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                                Originally posted by Erik View Post

                                Understood.

                                I don't easily have control over the contents of that box. Or I just haven't found it yet.
                                VileR showed examples of doing it. The rep bar is a DIV with the "b-meter" class. I imagine he just marked that as not visible in his style sheet. Obviously it would be nice if it was just a checkbox on a config somewhere, but the stylesheet is a good last resort.

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