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    The Matrix Reloaded

    I took the day off to go see this movie (I was about to burn vacation time anyway) and it was very good.

    I can't wait to get it on DVD so that I can really analyze some aspects, but it was easily as good as the first movie, although quite a bit different in tone.

    Erik
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    Re: The Matrix Reloaded

    "Erik" wrote in message:

    > I took the day off to go see this movie (I was
    > about to burn vacation time anyway) and it was
    > "very" good.

    > I can't wait to get it on DVD so that I can really
    > analyze some aspects, but it was easily as good
    > as the first movie, although quite a bit different
    > in tone.

    I saw the original & thought it was dribble. Is this
    any better?

    Cheers.
    Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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      #3
      Matrix Reloaded Vs Terminator 3 (was: The Matrix Reloaded)

      "CP/M User" wrote in message:

      >> I took the day off to go see this movie (I was
      >> about to burn vacation time anyway) and it was
      >> "very" good.

      >> I can't wait to get it on DVD so that I can really
      >> analyze some aspects, but it was easily as good
      >> as the first movie, although quite a bit different
      >> in tone.

      > I saw the original & thought it was dribble. Is this
      > any better?

      Oh I see, you liked the original. Having seen the
      original & adjudging it as dribble, I simply don't
      know what it is about (so watching it was a waste
      of time). I might as well shouldn't have seen it.

      This should have been placed into the rants column,
      because many people may want to rant on about
      the Matrix!

      I'm simply looking foward to Terminator 3, I don't
      know how they are going to fit it into the end
      script of Terminator 2 only because I thought Term
      2 finished everything nicely, but if it's any good
      then they must have found a way. It's been
      nearly 12 years since Terminator 2 came out,
      so I guess could be good.

      But lets look into a short history of long awaited
      sequals:

      "The Guns of Navarone (1961)"
      is an absolute gem to:
      "Force 10 From Navarone (197"
      which critics think is a disaster.
      But I'd be the first to say that I didn't mind
      Force 10 From Navarone - okay maybe the scene
      where the water races down to take out the bridge
      the looks a bit primative, but this was done in
      1978 for heavens sake!

      Now where was I, on yes, the other long I can
      think of is Blues Brothers 2000. It may not be
      as good as Blues Brothers, but the best thing
      I could say about it is it's okay.

      Cheers.
      Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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        #4
        I'm anxiously awaiting Terminator 3 as well. It should be interesting.

        I'm most anxious for Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. THAT will be an amazing film and should (hopefully) break all box office records to date.

        I thought the Matrix (the first movie) was excellent and the second was about as good. If you didn't like the one, you'll not like the other.

        Erik
        The Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace
        The Vintage Computer

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          #5
          "Erik" wrote in message:

          > I'm anxiously awaiting Terminator 3 as well. It should be interesting.

          Well I just hope it's more than just special effects.

          > I'm most anxious for Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.
          > THAT will be an amazing film and should (hopefully) break
          > all box office records to date.

          You really do go for the newer movies, don't you?

          > I thought the Matrix (the first movie) was excellent and the
          > second was about as good. If you didn't like the one, you'll
          > not like the other.

          I tend to leave my SCI-FI to Star Trek. Terminator is one of the
          few exceptions & anything which has a vintage to it. Many '50s
          SCI-FIs were a bit over the top, but there are a couple of good
          ones in there. MetroPolis has to be seen to be believed, done in
          1926 (or there abouts), it looks rather good (even though it's
          a silent movie).

          I just saw the Matrix as another special effects job.

          Cheers.
          Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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            #6
            Originally posted by CP/M User
            You really do go for the newer movies, don't you?
            Some new, some old(er).

            I hate really old movies (i.e. more then about 35 years or so) since they were generally poorly acted, badly directed and typically had people bursting into song in the middle of a semi-normal conversation.

            Of course, I'm showing some bias. . .

            Erik
            The Vintage Computer and Gaming Marketplace
            The Vintage Computer

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              #7
              "Erik" wrote in message:
              >> You really do go for the newer movies, don't you?

              > Some new, some old(er).

              > I hate really old movies (i.e. more then about 35 years or so)
              > since they were generally poorly acted, badly directed and
              > typically had people bursting into song in the middle of a
              > semi-normal conversation.

              > Of course, I'm showing some bias. . .

              I haven't seen a Hitchcock movie like that. All the acting is of
              high quality & it has a decent story to boot.

              You've been watching Oliver! too much.

              You need to watch movies based on their age because I
              believe part of the excitment of watching a movie & the
              tricks they come up with is the key. Watching a movie in
              the past 20 or so years can easily be done with a
              computer.

              Cheers.
              Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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                #8
                Erik wrote:

                > I can't wait to get it on DVD so that I can really
                > analyze some aspects, but it was easily as good as
                > the first movie, although quite a bit different in
                > tone.

                So I'm guessing you got the DVD & see it over 100 times or
                something?!


                Haven't DVDs come down in price?

                CP/M User.
                Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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                  #9
                  "Erik" wrote in message:

                  > I hate really old movies (i.e. more then about 35
                  > years or so) since they were generally poorly acted,
                  > badly directed and typically had people bursting into
                  > song in the middle of a semi-normal conversation.

                  Speaking of ol' Film musicals, I managed to see My Fair Lady
                  for the first time - 'bout a month back. I thought it was
                  nicely done - the opener was classic, unfortunately the
                  advertisements killed the film - simply too many, this film on
                  DVD would kick "The commercial TV stations version" hands
                  down.

                  CP/M User.
                  Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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                    #10
                    ROFLMFAO!
                    CP/M, what are you thinking? lol
                    Talk about some serious resurection.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by CP/M User
                      "Erik" wrote in message:

                      > I hate really old movies (i.e. more then about 35
                      > years or so) since they were generally poorly acted,
                      > badly directed and typically had people bursting into
                      > song in the middle of a semi-normal conversation.

                      Speaking of ol' Film musicals, I managed to see My Fair Lady
                      for the first time - 'bout a month back. I thought it was
                      nicely done - the opener was classic, unfortunately the
                      advertisements killed the film - simply too many, this film on
                      DVD would kick "The commercial TV stations version" hands
                      down.

                      CP/M User.

                      I was trying to watch the 'Lord of The Rings' movies a few weeks ago. I gave up halfway thru the second movie, I just couldn't stand all the commercial breaks. It was annoying enough to prevent enjoyment of the movie. Just for the record, I timed 'em before I tuned-out. They were running four minutes of advertizing for every eight minutes of program.

                      --T
                      Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.
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                        #12
                        Terry Yager wrote:

                        > I was trying to watch the 'Lord of The Rings' movies
                        > a few weeks ago. I gave up halfway thru the second
                        > movie, I just couldn't stand all the commercial
                        > breaks. It was annoying enough to prevent enjoyment
                        > of the movie. Just for the record, I timed 'em before
                        > I tuned-out. They were running four minutes of
                        > advertizing for every eight minutes of program.

                        Yeah, it was an interesting start to the television last year
                        when one of the stations scrapped the idea of having Sunday
                        night movies (in which the premier movies were shown then).
                        The promo to have shows on had the station actually listing a
                        whole list of movies & then saying "Seen it". Generally though
                        this is because more people are going out to see these movies
                        - or have the DVDs, which I might add a decent DVD can be had
                        for under $10 (even if the movie is a little bit older - still
                        good quality). I figure it's the advertising though which is
                        the main culprit & movies nowadays aren't exactly short -
                        people need to go to bed to go to work or school the next day
                        (well I do anyway).

                        CP/M User.
                        Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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                          #13
                          alexkerhead wrote:

                          > ROFLMFAO!
                          > CP/M, what are you thinking? lol
                          > Talk about some serious resurection.

                          Hey, I'm thinking there's some good talks still left in this
                          stuff!

                          CP/M User.
                          Generic and Amstrad CPC based Programs written in Turbo Pascal 3

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CP/M User
                            alexkerhead wrote:

                            > ROFLMFAO!
                            > CP/M, what are you thinking? lol
                            > Talk about some serious resurection.

                            Hey, I'm thinking there's some good talks still left in this
                            stuff!

                            CP/M User.
                            Well, I dunno 'bout anyone else, but I needed an excuse to rant against networks that over-sell thier air time, just because the show might be popular.

                            --T
                            Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.
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                              #15
                              I saw a home electronics chain over here now advertised DVD players for 299 SEK (53 AUD, 45 CAD, 32 EUR, 22 GBP, 39 USD). It said they will play "most" movies, but probably limited when it comes to burned discs and various odd formats and encodings - surely no DivX. I wonder if the cheapest players will drop further in price, or if they will only improve in functionality until the next technology comes to replace first generation DVDs.
                              Anders Carlsson

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