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could someone explain eBay's Global Shipping program please

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    could someone explain eBay's Global Shipping program please

    Someone who's used it. Do I specify a shipping charge domestically, and the buyer deals with ebay to get it from their shipping center to them?

    #2
    Have you listed an auction with this service already? If not, I'd recommend just don't use it. I haven't been on the sending end of it but I've been on the receiving end a few times and it stinks. It really stinks.
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      #3
      You have just a domestic shipping rate, then if someone overseas buys it through the GSP, you send the package to the regional shipping center and eBay takes care of the rest. They charge a really premium price for this, so I'm told. According to a few buyers, it appears worse at first as VAT, duty, etc. is factored in to what eBay charges the buyer. Assuming you'd have filled out the customs form honestly, it's apparently not a huge difference between GSP and regular international shipping + paying the required fees.

      When the GSP came about, I saw it as an eBay money grab and continued selling to international buyers directly, since the customs forms aren't *that* hard to deal with. I now use the GSP exclusively due to too many overseas scammers. It's apparently a popular one to let the item sit at the local post office, waiting on fees to be paid, and claim that the item never arrived. eBay will force a refund out of the seller, since tracking correctly shows that the item is not delivered. The buyer then usually goes and pays their VAT/duty/whatever and gets the item, plus the refund, and they're only out the fees. I had this happen to me several times and decided I was done playing that game. With the GSP, it's considered done from the seller's end as long as it makes it to the regional shipping center intact.

      I believe eBay knows about this scam and is intentionally not helping sellers who get caught up in it, in order to push them toward the GSP. In one of the scam cases I was involved in as a seller, the eBay customer service rep actually told me that it wouldn't be an issue if I were using the GSP. So there's that.
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        #4
        Like Glitch, I also exclusively use the GSP for international sales. Has been great. I only pay to sent to the UK shipping centre. So far in about 100 or so sales, I've had one buyer report that an item was damaged on arrival. Ebay took responsibility right away and refunded the buyer without any effect on my account.

        As a buyer, I can see all fees upfront and seems on par with normal customs fees and charges. I've received a couple of items that were damaged and again, Ebay issued a full refund quickly.

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          #5
          I never had an issue with the service. I don't know what it looks like on the buyers end, but as a seller it's convenient. You ship domestically with tracking to a global shipping site (seems to always be Kansas) and they in turn bill and ship out international. They never lost a package on their end.

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            #6
            Originally posted by KC9UDX View Post
            .....I haven't been on the sending end of it but I've been on the receiving end a few times and it stinks. It really stinks.
            Out of interest Why does it stink ?, I've only been on the receiving end once when i bought from a seller in the USA and it worked out realy well for me.

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              #7
              I've received damaged items that were repackaged by GSP. The seller had packaged them properly, but eBay deemed the packaging too large and repackaged them.
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                #8
                Originally posted by KC9UDX View Post
                I've received damaged items that were repackaged by GSP. The seller had packaged them properly, but eBay deemed the packaging too large and repackaged them.
                I've *heard* of that happening as well, though on the first few GSP sales I did ask the buyers about whether the item was in the packaging I sent it in. In those first few cases, eBay had just relabeled my boxes and sent them on. This was for largeish items as I first started using the GSP on those.
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                  #9
                  I have used GSP for years. Works great.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by glitch View Post
                    I've *heard* of that happening as well, though on the first few GSP sales I did ask the buyers about whether the item was in the packaging I sent it in. In those first few cases, eBay had just relabeled my boxes and sent them on. This was for largeish items as I first started using the GSP on those.
                    I've had it happen half a dozen times. Or I've dealt with half a dozen dishonest sellers, which I doubt. But it's been a few years so maybe it's different now.
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                      #11
                      I recently used it to buy a MCA video board from a USA vendor. I thought it was great. If the item had been shipped outside the program I would have had to pay about 12.00 to Royal Mail for them to collect the TAX owing. Sometimes it appears expensive, but once all the charges are added in its not bad.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by glitch View Post
                        I now use the GSP exclusively due to too many overseas scammers
                        I hadn't considered that at all. I was about to stop using the GSP to ship but now I'm reconsidering. Can you provide some more details on what was scammed? Was it items over $100, under $100? What kinds of items (I'm assuming your boards)? What destinations were the scammiest?
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by g4ugm View Post
                          I recently used it to buy a MCA video board from a USA vendor. I thought it was great. If the item had been shipped outside the program I would have had to pay about 12.00 to Royal Mail for them to collect the TAX owing. Sometimes it appears expensive, but once all the charges are added in its not bad.
                          Yup in some cases it can work out cheaper for the buyer to go via the GSP, it may take a little longer to get to it's destination but worth it.

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                            #14
                            As far as Ebay goes I only ever bought international goods from Japan (import games) and I only sell stuff in the US.

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                              #15
                              One caveat about the GSP is that they will seize items they deem dangerous to ship. Unfortunately that includes all vacuum tubes. I've had two parcels that they refused to forward - they do let you keep your payment from the buyer, and do refund the buyer. Sadly in both cases the tubes were relatively rare and not easily replaced - unfortunate as nothing about them was actually dangerous (no Hg, Th etc).

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