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There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

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This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

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We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

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New user moderation

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Any recommendations for an uber simple Windows snipping tool?

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    Any recommendations for an uber simple Windows snipping tool?

    I'm just tired of downloading, installing, uninstalling, deleting. They're all too convoluted. What I need to do is click to activate, delineate, and click to save. I don't want to have to touch the k/b at all. Reactivation is fine, but I'd rather not have to bother. Windows 10s tool makes you click new everytime, and you have to name the file. The MyLibrary app that came with my Asus tf300t was nearly perfect. Down and dirty. My only gripe was you didn't get to choose where the delineation boundaries began, it started in the middle of the screen, and you needed 2 gestures to delineate. If that makes sense. I want to be able to choose and click the mouse, drag to enlarge, then click done, and it autosaves (and the Asus way of choosing a name is bizarre as all get out). Please help. I have reams and reams of docs to go through.

    Before long I'll have to write my own.

    You might want to consider a service for sniping. I've been using eSnipe since its founding (I do get a special deal because of that) and have no complaints.
    Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.


      *deep sigh* snipping, not sniping.


        Pardon my ignorance, but I'm trying to figure out what you're looking for. If I use "ebay snipping", I get nothing but "sniping" results. Exactly what do you mean? Your original post doesn't seem to indicate that.
        Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.


          Like cut and paste sort of thing ??, I don't use Win 10 so not sure.


            Who said anything about ebay? O man just live with it.


              Originally posted by Malc View Post
              Like cut and paste sort of thing ??, I don't use Win 10 so not sure.
              Caveman. No I don't imagine you can snip on an IBM System 23/Datamaster. It's all good though. And you're making me nostalgic.


                Something like THIS?


                  I tried Jing and a half dozen others. I don't want to have to connect to the internet, not all make you, but they all are feature bloated. I want a simple tool. I haven't scoured source forge yet, just thought I'd ask.

                  I was only kidding with the caveman comment. I'd be perfectly happy with 7 or 8, but 10mwas preinstalled.


                    Okay, now I understand. Forgive my density. You want to be able to copy images and text. Seems to be somewhat unique to Windows. I'm a Linux user.
                    Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.


                      Ahh, I never tried Vista, Tried 7 - 8 and 10 for about 10 mins and thought what a load of S**T, I have some Linux dvd's now and am slowly feeling my way around them.


                        I'll bet Linux comes packaged with what I'm looking for. I want to put Linux on here, but there may be uefi firmware hurdles to overcome. My older netbook still isn't operational. I also have to back up all my stuff in case of chaos. As soon as I buy another h/d for backup, I'm there. I can't imagine Linux not having something like that. And please understand I'm the caveman for making what could be construed as rude comments. Nothing particularly wrong with being a cave dweller these days. Ugh just look around. 3verybodys nuts. At least in my neighborhood.


                          No offence taken, i am a bit of a caveman in some ways, so i've been told.


                            Yup, it's called "screenshot" or "screenshooter" or some variation, depending on what you're using for a desktop manager.

                            And key bindings for the various options can be altered quite simply. So, pressing shift-prtscrn (just now) brings up a "select region" dialog that allows me to save to a file, copy to the clipboard or upload to an image hosting site. So I can get this:


                            As far as I know, current versions of Linux will work with UEFI or BIOS and can even boot 64-bit kernels on 32-bit UEFI installations running on x64 CPUs.
                            Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.


                              Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
                              ... You want to be able to copy images and text. ...

                              Yup, it's called "screenshot" or "screenshooter" or some variation, depending on what you're using for a desktop manager. ...
                              I like to use Irfanview for all that kinda stuff.
                              PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step