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    Amazon Prime--a good deal?

    I've been an Amazon customer for a long time. I've resisted the Amazon Prime invitation overtures because I don't see the benefit. I still get fast free shipping on most orders. I ordered a new 'scope on Tuesday evening--it'll be here tomorrow (Friday), even though the estimated delivery was to be Monday.
    Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

    #2
    I order alot online, eBay, amazon, aliexpress. Amazon has alot to offer with free shipping.. Although it seems your doing OK without Prime. We watch the streaming service as we don't use cable or dish for our entertainment. In other words its an expense that we don't flinch over.

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      #3
      Isn't it free for 30 days?

      Try it and see if you like or need it.

      I cancelled.
      PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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        #4
        We use the heck out of the same day shipping, and with Netflix it's the only other place we get shows and movies to watch. The music streaming is decent as well. And there are benefits for avid readers too and some Audible perks as well. I don't really use either of these tbh.

        https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201910360 <--- Complete list of all the perks and add-ons for Prime.

        But at the end of the day only you can decide if it's worth it, it is for us. It costs $119 per year, which is not a lot if you think about it. So I'd say it's at the least worth trying it out for one year. If, at the end of the year, you still think it's not worth it, then cancel and go back to what you are doing now.

        IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
        IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
        Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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          #5
          I order a lot of smallish stuff. It's great to get it in 2 days with free shipping (and it probably causes me to order a bit more than I would otherwise).

          I've watched myself for the few years that I've subscribed, and every year the free shipping ends up offsetting the yearly fee.

          smp

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            #6
            If you have kids and both work full time, it is a fantastic time saver. We use it all the time, even for things that would be cheaper at a supermarket/Walmart.

            Depends on how much you value not having to go to the store, how much you order, what you order, and if you stream media.

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              #7
              I works for me

              Next day delivery is ok, get quite a bit of use from it, but not enough probably on its own, but I also get some limited films (but much poorer than netflix).

              The unlimited photo backup does seem worthwhile as a safety net for my pictures.

              It also works well with my sonos system for music and last year in an Epic trip driving down to Monte Casino it was great to listen to what ever we wanted including BBC radio while driving.

              None would be enough on their own, but all together, they seem worth it.
              Current fleet
              TRS80 Model 4 - BBC B - Tatung Einstein - PCW9512 - PET 3032 - C64 - ZX81 - Spectrum 48K - Amiga A500 - Apple II europlus - Apple iMAC G3. Sharp MZ-80K. - IBM 5160 XT - Multibus 286/10 - Micro PDP 11/73 - Rainbow PC100A - MicroVax II - MicroVAX 3100, 3300, VAX 4000 VLC & 4000 Model 96 - AlphaStation 225 Apricot PC - Apple Performa 6200 - Apple Mac IIcx - Osborne 1 - ACT Sirius 1

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                #8
                Only if you use their movie service, I figure. I even tried to use that and found out it just didn't work for me. I had to pirate the movie I paid for, just to watch it on my TV.

                I had prime for five years (at least) and cancelled it last month. A year ago, things ordered with two day shipping might show up same day or next day. But these days, it shows up in a week, "on time". I could have had it cheaper and faster through Newegg, or J.C. Whitney, Farm & Fleet, etc. Returns are no longer free and easy.

                Many things I search for turn out to be "not eligible for Prime". Almost everything can be found at a better price elsewhere.

                I don't need their creepy delivery drivers poking round here anymore. It's bad enough that they do anyway due to my neighbor's deliveries.

                I'm totally fed up with the Chinesiness of Amazon brand products. I'm irate when I pay full price for an advertised "Made in USA" brand name product and receive a Chinese knock-off, and then have to pay return shipping and a restocking fee because "bait and switch" isn't an Amazon-valid reason for return.

                There will still be things I need to buy through Amazon. But in three months I've so far found everything I needed elsewhere.
                Be polite and I may let you live.

                https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...5NBVfKX5471R9U

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                  #9
                  I'm not much for movies. Music taste is classical and I'm not one for photography.

                  Next-day delivery would be it for me.
                  Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
                    I'm not much for movies. Music taste is classical and I'm not one for photography.

                    Next-day delivery would be it for me.
                    I'm in a similar boat. I've used Amazon's music service since before I had Prime. I haven't tried it since I cancelled Prime to see if I lost anything.

                    I only tried one movie one time. Amazon would only give me permission to watch it on my phone. I ended up buying it from YouTube and getting a refund because that wouldn't play at all. So I put my Sony Handicam on my copy stand, pointed at the phone, and transferred the recording to a computer.

                    In my experience, Amazon's Next Day, and even Two-Day are dubious today. They yoostaby okay but for some time only things which I don't actually need quickly end up arriving on time. Everything else shows up a day or three late, and Amazon still says it was delivered on time.
                    Be polite and I may let you live.

                    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...5NBVfKX5471R9U

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                      #11
                      Well, it could be my location. Sort of halfway between Seattle and San Francisco on I-5. The scope was shipped from Amazon's warehouse in Tracy, CA.

                      The music thing is interesting--I was a subscriber to Naxos classics for years. In February, they announced that due to lack of interest, they were terminating the service. Refunded the whole year.

                      Which brought me back to my CD collection that I sort of left collect dust about 20 years ago. Many albums hadn't even had the shrink wrap off. Many that haven't been published in at least a decade.

                      I got the old Sony CDP-102 going and had a listen to some of it. I figure that'll keep me busy for the next couple of years...
                      Last edited by Chuck(G); April 18, 2019, 06:31 PM.
                      Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                        #12
                        I recently got a great deal on a Bose Wave Music System IV with CD Player, Radio and Alexa.

                        Between Pandora and iHeartRadio, both of which are free, and my CDs, I've got all the music I can handle.

                        I don't even use the Bose's radio since the WiFi reception is much better than the FM is.
                        PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                          #13
                          My wife inherited one of those Bose radios; I don't think she even listens to it. At least I've never seen her doing it.
                          Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                            #14
                            I have an old Technics SL-MC400 110 disk CD changer connected to my stereo with some of my CD collection inside that I listen to, and sometimes I just load up a classic rock play list on youtube and listen to that. Collecting movie DVDs is a waste of time for me because I generally don't see the same movie more then once every 5+ years so Netflix rentals and streaming is fine for me. Sooner or later you won't be able to buy music and movies from anyone, you will have to pay to stream it monthly.

                            Don't really use Amazon for much since the stuff I generally want I can find cheaper somewhere else. I think they did the Amazon prime thing to get people to buy more junk then they normally would. Quite a few major online stores have free shipping anyway on most items.
                            What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                            Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                            Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                            Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                              #15
                              Amazon and eBay had the best price for the scope; the same vendor sells on both with the same prices.

                              All in all, I don't trust eBay much any more--the last thing I bought that quoted a delivery time from there of 3 days took a month to deliver.
                              Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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