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    #16
    Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    My wife inherited one of those Bose radios; I don't think she even listens to it. At least I've never seen her doing it.
    Those things suck for higher frequency sound output and clarity. I think Bose and the iPod killed sound reproduction for the sake of space and portability.
    What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
    Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
    Boxed apps and games for the above systems
    Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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      #17
      Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
      Amazon and eBay had the best price for the scope; the same vendor sells on both with the same prices.

      All in all, I don't trust eBay much any more--the last thing I bought that quoted a delivery time from there of 3 days took a month to deliver.
      I can't objectively answer at this point whether Amazon Prime is a good deal because I'm an add-one to a family members account so I don't pay anything for it (I don't believe they still offer this though). Of course, I don't get the benefits of the other features (such as prime music/video), I only get the prime shipping. That said, if I didn't have it and had to get it, i'm pretty sure I would pay for it. Most of my online purchases are through Amazon so the 2 day free shipping is definitely a deciding factor for a lot of stuff I need/want. I do pay for Costco (and previously sams club) and I feel like I get a lot more use out of Amazon Prime then i do the membership warehouses. All that said, I have no idea what's already free shipping if you don't have Prime shipping, so maybe it just seems better than it really is...

      Agreed about eBay. If I need stuff now, I will buy it from Amazon. If I can wait and it's a certain type of item (computer parts usually), I buy it from Aliexpress as it's almost always cheaper. The only time I buy stuff from eBay now is if there is an item that isn't available either place or there is some discount that makes it more viable. I've had significantly more bad experiences with eBay sellers than either of the other two.
      Last edited by ngtwolf; April 18, 2019, 09:55 PM.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
        Well, it could be my location. Sort of halfway between Seattle and San Francisco on I-5. The scope was shipped from Amazon's warehouse in Tracy, CA.
        They have no good excuse at all here then. I'm 45 minutes drive from their regional warehouse.
        Be polite and I may let you live.

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          #19
          We should all remember that "Free shipping" is a canard. Amazon doesn't foot the bill for it whether you subscribe to Prime or not.

          Wherever you get "Free shipping," either you, or someone closer than you to the distribution centre, or the Chinese government, is paying for it.
          Be polite and I may let you live.

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            #20
            I dropped Prime because the free two day shipping often slipped to three or four days, and if I went to Amazon's site on a different computer, not signed into any account, I found most things bought outside of Prime were actually cheaper with the shipping costs than the same item bought with Prime "free" shipping.

            Then Amazon danced in my bank account at Christmas time. They withdrew odd amounts, then deposited odd amounts making nearly impossible for me to figure out what I actually paid for the gifts I bought. My son works in an Amazon warehouse, and his stories of deteriorating working environment there just added to my reasons for dropping the account.

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              #21
              Originally posted by fatwizard View Post
              ... if I went to Amazon's site on a different computer, not signed into any account, I found most things bought outside of Prime were actually cheaper with the shipping costs than the same item bought with Prime "free" shipping....
              Great analysis -- thanks.
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                #22
                Originally posted by fatwizard View Post
                I dropped Prime because the free two day shipping often slipped to three or four days, and if I went to Amazon's site on a different computer, not signed into any account, I found most things bought outside of Prime were actually cheaper with the shipping costs than the same item bought with Prime "free" shipping.
                Not being a Prime subscriber, I was not aware of the price differential. I thank you for that tidbit.
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                  #23
                  I find many retail websites show better pricing when I'm not logged in.
                  Be polite and I may let you live.

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                    #24
                    its not widely advertised (for obvious reasons), but you can get prime for $5.99/mo if you have EBT or Medicaid.

                    https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=16256994011

                    Its worth it because prime video has Babylon 5, so I didn't have to pirate it again.
                    It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

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                      #25
                      OTA CometTV has been showing the B5 series over and over and over....

                      to wit

                      as well as SG1 and SG Atlantis, 5 episodes on selected days of the week. I think I've almost got the dialog memorized on SG1.
                      Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by luckybob View Post
                        Its worth it because prime video has Babylon 5, so I didn't have to pirate it again.
                        Ya', but is it worth it to have to pay more for each item you purchase there?
                        PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                          #27
                          Last month I bought a computer case. It was too small so I returned it. The shipper messed up and returned it to me a week later. Because I was "prime", CS told me to keep it. So I dropped it on CL and made $100.

                          The way I see it, that $100 pays for prime the next 18 months.

                          Also, most items I get, are cheaper with prime.
                          It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

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                            #28
                            I've been on Prime since 2001. Often lived in smaller towns, so on-line shopping was sometimes the only option. It's nice to go order something without needing filler to get free shipping.

                            Lately, I joined the unlimited music service. I can download music so I can listen off-line, which is nice. Took a while to get the service to offer me stuff that I liked, vs. what they seemed to promote.

                            I use an Amazon-linked visa card which gives back 5% on all purchases, so that they are often the better deal.

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                              #29
                              I rarely watch movies and rarely buy stuff. With my Kmart/Sears free stuff I have so much clothing I am set for years. Plus with CVS coupons + manufacturing coupons most other life essentials are also very cheap. Food is cheap with sales / coupons at local supermarkets. Gas is local obviously. When I need computer hardware I find eBay the cheapest option or Craigslist. I find Amazon super annoying when it comes to their search engine: it throws back completely unrelated items. That basically sums up my purchasing.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by PeterNC View Post
                                I find Amazon super annoying when it comes to their search engine: it throws back completely unrelated items.
                                And that is how I got that computer case! I searched for "EATX" and I got a regular ATX in the mix.

                                Amazon is good for the items that I need in the next couple days and cant find one local. case in point, I needed nice dutch oven and the stores were constantly sold out. Everyone wanted $20 shipping (reasonable because these are HEAVY) and with prime it was free. It isnt the answer for everything, but is is damn convenient.
                                It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

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