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    Run of the mill 3D printers

    For instance:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Geeetech-As...Cclp%3A2334524

    Thoughts or opinions?

    #2
    Build volume: 130*130*130mm
    As long as you are only doing small items that will fit in roughly a 6" cube it's alright.
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      #3
      So small models or figurines, down to 25mm tall will turn out convincingly? I'm more interested with accuracy then size. For some things the stated precision (~.002/.004") is insufficient. But you can't expect the world for 160$.

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        #4
        I would suggest Creality Ender 3 (build volume 220x220x250) for about $180.
        It's an extremely popular printer, so you can be sure any problem you might run into (and rest assured you WILL run into problems, with printer of any make) has already been solved.
        Alternatively you can look into resin printers if you're looking to print miniatures or parts for scaled models.
        Last edited by dorkbert; March 24, 2021, 08:57 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by tipc View Post
          So small models or figurines, down to 25mm tall will turn out convincingly? I'm more interested with accuracy then size. For some things the stated precision (~.002/.004") is insufficient. But you can't expect the world for 160$.
          Get an Elegoo Mars then instead. FDM printers are not good if accuracy and fine details are important to you.

          (I own both an Ender-3 [heavily modded] and an Elegoo Mars)

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            #6
            Originally posted by dorkbert View Post
            I would suggest Creality Ender 3 (build volume 220x220x250) for about $180.
            It's an extremely popular printer, so you can be sure any problem you might run into (and rest assured you WILL run into problems, with printer of any make) has already been solved.
            Alternatively you can look into resin printers if you're looking to print miniatures or parts for scaled models.
            I agree, I've read a lot of positive reviews about this printer. It's a real workhorse with quality components!

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              #7
              Ok I don't know diddly about this stuff, and I'm having suggestions rudely thrown at me (IT'S A JOKE). Waiting means prices will only come down. Unless...I better act, they may be considered vintage soon 8O

              In the interim I could try my hand at what I've coined poor man's 3d printing. Reducing a digital model to a series of cutting planes and etch each in copper shim stock. Then soldering it all together. Schmott, no?

              I'd really like to invest in a printer that produces models of thermoplastic.

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                #8
                Originally posted by tipc View Post
                Waiting means prices will only come down.
                Prices are not an issue. There are resin printers like the Longer Orange 10 that are even cheaper than the FDM printer you linked to. I would still recommend the Mars instead - or at least the Longer Orange 30.

                If you want FDM only for whatever reason, keep in mind that even a pre-built printer will not "just work". It takes lots of effort and learning to get good results.

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                  #9
                  I just know so little about the subject. I became suddenly interested when it occurred to me I could create figurines relatively effortlessly. But I have or have had more productive uses for such a tool.

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                    #10
                    With a resin printer, that's more or less the case. You have to wash the object using IPA and cure it in the sun for some hours after printing, but that's about it. Admitted, that's not fun work to do and you need to wear gloves when handling the resin, but it's not much effort.

                    For FDM on the other hand, sanding down the surface is often required and the result heavily depends on correct slicing, which is a whole field on its own.

                    To give you an idea... To be able to print this on my Ender-3:

                    IMG_20181227_151637805.jpg
                    (took 36 hours, btw)

                    I had to do over 100 modifications and made my Ender-3 finally look like this:

                    IMG_20201203_183809051.jpg

                    Most modifications were developed by myself.

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                      #11
                      What's more or less the case? And hasn't someone produced an advanced manual on the subject seeing a fair amount of stuff has been produced at this point? So excessive effort to produce worthwhile models isn't required?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by tipc View Post
                        What's more or less the case?
                        What you wrote above: "create figurines relatively effortlessly"

                        Originally posted by tipc View Post
                        And hasn't someone produced an advanced manual on the subject seeing a fair amount of stuff has been produced at this point? So excessive effort to produce worthwhile models isn't required?
                        Every 3d printer and every object you print needs custom settings that you can't find in manuals. For FDM, even different filaments require a whole bunch of settings to make - often trial-and-error is needed to get it right. This is a very complex topic.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tipc View Post
                          So small models or figurines, down to 25mm tall will turn out convincingly? I'm more interested with accuracy then size. For some things the stated precision (~.002/.004") is insufficient. But you can't expect the world for 160$.
                          Whilst I haven't tried that printer small objects can be a problem. On my, albeit very old 3Drag, the issue is that the layers don't have time to cool, so even with the fan on you can get sagging.

                          As some one else said, the words "effortless" and "3-D Printing" only work when there is a "not" somewhere in the sentence. So you might want to pause between layers, or print multiple objects.

                          Some discussion on the issue here:-

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/...ayers_ignored/

                          I would go and search some 3D printing forums for info on your printer.....
                          .... would you ask about vintage computers on a 3D printing forum...
                          Dave
                          G4UGM

                          Looking for Analog Computers, Drum Plotters, and Graphics Terminals

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                            #14
                            I recently ordered an Ender 3 V2. Still has not arrived though

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                              #15
                              There still should be a manual/guidebook. It needn't cover every complication that could arise. Just most of them.

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