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Wanted: Jr Data Scientist

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    Wanted: Jr Data Scientist

    Lifted from Facebook .. .


    Looking to hire a Jr Data Scientist

    • 15 years Python
    • 30 years SQL
    • 20 years AWL
    • 15 years Spark
    • Core contributor to assembly code base.
    • Should have some sort of martial arts experience, whether Ninja,
      Jujitsu, or Karate. All 3 preferred.
    • Knows SQL, NoSQL, NewSQL, and all future flavors of SQL.
    • Project management experience.
    • Strong experience with Kelas,ToscaNova, Sklearn, XODuval, and
      preferably has written their own ML library from scratch.
    • Should have published at least 7 top level academic papers preferably
      focused around a Conventional Document Hack propagating Neural
      Network.
    • Open source contributor at least 5 projects.
    • Experience leading teams of 10,000 people or more.
    • Managed a CICD pipeline for an application with at least 2 billion daily users.
    • Should have at least 1 PhD 5 is preferred.


    Yes,we have ping-pong tables and an open floor plan and lots of salty snacks in the
    breakroom.Organic Kombucha on tap.

    The interviews will consist of a 5 day process of whiteboarding algorithms from scratch
    followed by writing your own compiler and a coding exam will be taken at random from
    the 20 most popular programming languages.
    Last edited by Agent Orange; September 7, 2020, 08:12 PM.
    Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

    #2
    Nothing cracks me up more than when the HR dept. writes “needs n years of m”, where m hasn’t even existed for n years.

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      #3
      You forgot to add that the starting salary for the suitably qualified candidate will be $45,000 PA, with an opportunity to increase to $59,500 PA over a 10 year time frame, provided the candidate is prepared to work 70 hour weeks. And a company car ( Ford Pinto) will be provided at times when the sales team are not using it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Hugo Holden View Post
        You forgot to add that the starting salary for the suitably qualified candidate will be $45,000 PA, with an opportunity to increase to $59,500 PA over a 10 year time frame, provided the candidate is prepared to work 70 hour weeks. And a company car ( Ford Pinto) will be provided at times when the sales team are not using it.
        Yes, those are nice perks.
        Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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          #5
          I know BASIC real well. Do you think I qualify? Man I can just see myself joy ridin in that Pinto.

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            #6
            Originally posted by tipc View Post
            I know BASIC real well. Do you think I qualify? Man I can just see myself joy ridin in that Pinto.
            You've been drinking too much Organic Kombucha . . .
            Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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              #7
              Can you imagine the requirements for a Senior Data Scientist.

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                #8
                Originally posted by tradde View Post
                Can you imagine the requirements for a Senior Data Scientist.
                Or in an outfit like that what qual's would need just to sweep the floors?
                Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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                  #9
                  Just guessing what is the experience of people who will be making interview.
                  Is there a salary written nearby? Perhaps somebody offer for it at least 1 billion $ yearly

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tipc View Post
                    I know BASIC real well. Do you think I qualify? Man I can just see myself joy ridin in that Pinto.
                    That reminds of some Offspring song lyrics, Pretty Fly for a white guy:

                    He needs some cool tunes, not just any will suffice
                    But they didn't have Ice Cube so he bought Vanilla Ice
                    Now cruising in his Pinto, he sees homies as he pass
                    But if he looks twice they're gonna kick his lily ass

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                      #11
                      In a recent internal search for a Jr Data Scientist I applied but was told attending University didn't matter, they were only interested in applicants who had taken ONLINE CLASSES.

                      I will not be pushing for any interaction with that group in the future.

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                        #12
                        I've just realized the perfect candidate was in front of us the whole time, Weird Al Yankovic, you must watch his music video which outlines some of his qualifications, for example:

                        There's no killer app I haven't run (run)
                        At Pascal, well, I'm number one (one)
                        Do vector calculus just for fun
                        I ain't got a gat, but I got a soldering gun (What?)
                        Happy Days is my favorite theme song
                        I could sure kick your butt in a game of ping pong
                        I'll ace any trivia quiz you bring on
                        I'm fluent in JavaScript as well as Klingon


                        Please watch the video, consider it his job interview:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

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