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Does anyone have a CBM 4022 printer manual?

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    Does anyone have a CBM 4022 printer manual?

    I’ve been looking everywhere for a “Commodore 4022 Tractor Printer” manual. This is for the PET-compatible printer that succeeded the 3022 model. I found the website of a vintage-radio restorer who has a copy of the service manual for sale at three times what I paid for the actual printer, but it seems like the user’s manual (the one with the command reference) has been lost to history. I’m hoping for an electronic copy as there’s no postage that way, but I’ll take whatever is available. If I end up with a paper copy I’ll try to get it scanned for posterity.

    Thanks in advance,
    the world’s only gsteemso
    agitator-in-chief for the Seattle Retro-Computing Society

    Well, I have a 4023 printer and manual, but I don't know if, or what, the differences are other than cosmetic. If it will help I can try digging it out.

    WANTED: CBM-II hardware or software, PET software


      I didn’t even know there WAS a 4023!

      If excavating it wouldn’t be too onerous an undertaking, the 4023 manual might provide some clue as to its own applicability to a 4022. Could you please try to find that?
      the world’s only gsteemso
      agitator-in-chief for the Seattle Retro-Computing Society


        Ok, I found the manual... it was in a box underneath 2 others, so that wasn't too much

        I have extracted the basic info here...

        IEEE device = 4
        8x8 dot font
        80, 40 and 20 columns
        programmable line spacing

        hold paper-feed button when turning on to do printhead test

        Use secondary address to control formatting: open lfn,4,sa

        Where sa is:
        0=print as received
        1=use defined format
        2=store formatting data
        3=set number of lines per page
        4=enable diagnostic messages
        5=define a programmable character
        6=set spacing between lines
        7=upper/lower case
        8=ascii / graphics
        9=supress diagnostics
        10=reset printer

        Special Codes:

        example: print chr$(code);

        1 = enhance (expand chr width)
        147=paging on / reset
        19=paging off
        18=reverse on
        146=reverse off
        13=carriage return with linefeed
        141=carriage return without linefeed
        29=skip space

        There are additional examples of how some of the above work.
        I hope that helps. I could not find any info on compatibility with other printers.

        WANTED: CBM-II hardware or software, PET software


          One nice thing about these...hold down the ready/online key or whatever it is called, and when you power on, and it'll print a test page for you. I love the 8023 dotmatrix printer, I assume the 4023 is the 4000 series equivalent?
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            Originally posted by billdeg View Post
            One nice thing about these...hold down the ready/online key or whatever it is called, and when you power on, and it'll print a test page for you. I love the 8023 dotmatrix printer, I assume the 4023 is the 4000 series equivalent?
            It's paperfeed as noted in my message above. The 4023 served my B128 very well as a printer for invoices in the family business.

            WANTED: CBM-II hardware or software, PET software


              Turns out there was a scanned version of the 4022 manual on Bombjack. Darned if I know why Google didn’t know about it. The 4022 seems pretty similar to what you describe, except it only has a 6x7 print head. Figures I’d get the less capable one. :¬)
              the world’s only gsteemso
              agitator-in-chief for the Seattle Retro-Computing Society


                For the record, I have manuals for the following IEEE Commodore printers 6400, 8023P, and 8300P, and probably the 2023 but it's elsewhere at the moment.
                @ BillDeg:
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