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    sanyo mbc-1250

    How much would a working sanyo mbc-1250 be worth.

    #2
    That is impossible to answer with any degree of accuracy.

    The Sanyo, while a very nice system, is late in the 8-bit CP/M era, so doesn't have the cachet of, say, an IMSAI 8080 or Tandy TRS-80. The most notable thing about it is that it's the last CP/M system that Sanyo marketed before moving on to the MBC-550 8088-based system. I may still have the manual for the thing sitting on my bookshelf.

    On the other hand, if you could find someone with an application that requires the 1250 to run (possible, with the graphics), they might be motivated to pay a decent price. But many might balk at free if it mean the cost of shipping.

    In short, it depends on your customer. Maybe nothing, maybe enough to buy a nice meal for two at a good restaurant. The rule for these things in my experience generally is "less than you think".

    Sorry not to be more helpful.
    Last edited by Chuck(G); May 9, 2009, 08:02 PM.

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      #3
      I dont plan on getting rich on selling this. I more wanted to know if it was worth trying to sell as a complete unit as to parting it out and selling it peace by Peace I got this at a yard sale for 5 dollars so it will be hard to lose money on it in any case.

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        #4
        Piece by piece won't get you much--you've got some DRAMs and a few LSI chips (most of which are still plentiful) and 96 tpi disk drives (not a huge demand for those, since most 1.2MB PC drives will do the same thing).

        I say keep it intact. Did you get any software for it? That might be an incentive.

        Post an advertisement in the "Marketplace" section and see if there's any interest. Be sure to include your location--bulky heavy things are more attractive if shipping costs can be minimized.

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          #5
          word star was the only program that i got with it. i fired it up today and played with it for a little bit was fun to use dos again been a long time .

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            #6
            A shame, because the 1250 has some very nice graphics capabilities (640x400 monochrome). It would be nice to have some software that took advantage of that.

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              #7
              Hi,

              A friend of mine is searching for the boot disks for Sanyo MBC 1250 and Sanyo MBC 1110. Do you know where to download them? Or would you be so kind to publish them if you have them?

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                #8
                Here are some images for Sanyo.


                http://oldcomputers-ddns.org/public/...nyo/index.html


                mbc1200.td0 108,054 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] DSQD - SANYO MBC-1200 CP/M 2.2 SYSTEM DISK V1.5
                mbc2000s.td0 151,386 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] SSQD - SANYO MBC-2000 CP/M 2.2 SYSTEM DISK
                mbc2000u.td0 163,374 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] SSQD - SANYO MBC-2000 CP/M 2.2 UTILITIES DISK
                mbc3000.td0 392,524 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] DSDD8 - SANYO MBC-3000 CP/M 2.2 SYSTEM DISK
                mxo-sy21.zip 10,880 2014/3/24 [00:00:00]
                san555.td0 208,126 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] DSDD - SANYO 555 MSDOS 2.11 SYSTEM DISK
                sanyocom.zip 16,736 2014/3/24 [00:00:00]
                smbc1000.td0 111,946 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] DSDD - SANYO MBC-1000 CP/M 2.2 SYSTEM DISK
                smbc1100.td0 101,060 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] DSDD - SANYO MBC-1100 CP/M 2.2 SYSTEM DISK
                smbc1200.td0 114,222 2014/3/24 [00:00:00] DSQD - SANYO MBC-1200 CP/M 2.2 SYSTEM DISK V1.3

                Download the .td0 files you want, then download the Imagedisk Ver1.18 from Dave Dunfield's website.
                It includes utilities like TD02IMD, IMDA, IMDU, IMDV, BIN2IMD, ANY2IMD, DMK2IMD, and TESTFDC.

                Create a batch file named A.BAT that contains:
                Code:
                TD02IMD smbc1100.td0 > SMBC1100.TXT
                
                IMDA SMBC1100.IMD >> SMBC1100.TXT
                
                IMDU SMBC1100IMD SMBC1100.RAW /B /E /D >> SMBC1100.TXT
                Then run the A.BAT file on the DOS Computer that has the correct Floppy Attached. Note that
                TELEDISK and IMAGEDISK (IMD) are DOS programs that run on an older DOS Computer.

                Read through the SMBC1100.TXT file as it will give you lots of information on the image.

                Code:
                TD 1.4 5.25 LD MFM S-step, 2 sides ADV
                80 tracks, 1280 sectors converted.
                
                
                IMageDisk Analyzer 1.18 / Mar 12 2012
                IMD TD 1.4 5.25 LD MFM S-step, 2 sides ADV
                
                Required cylinders: 40
                Required heads : 2
                Data rate : 250kbps
                Est. maximum track: 5541 bytes
                
                Possible drives/options to write SMBC1100.IMD :
                
                5.25" DD 40-track
                Double-step: OFF
                
                5.25" QD 80-track
                Double-step: ON
                
                5.25" HD 80-track
                Double-step: ON
                250 kbps -> 300 kbps
                
                3.5" DD 80-track NOTE: *1
                Double-step: OFF
                
                3.5" HD 80-track NOTE: *1
                Double-step: OFF
                
                *1 40 track image will use only first 1/2 of 80-track drive.
                
                
                IMageDisk Utility 1.18 / Mar 07 2012
                IMD TD 1.4 5.25 LD MFM S-step, 2 sides ADV
                
                Assuming 1:1 for Binary output
                0/0 250 kbps DD 16x256
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                80 tracks(40/40), 1280 sectors (686 Compressed)
                
                
                #22DISK
                BEGIN SAN1 Sanyo MBC-1000, MBC-1150 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25" - 256 x 16
                INSERT 22DISK DEFINITION HERE
                END
                
                #cpmtools
                # SAN1 Sanyo MBC-1000, MBC-1150 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25" - 256 x 16
                diskdef san1
                seclen 256
                tracks 80
                sectrk 16
                blocksize 2048
                maxdir 64
                skew 3
                boottrk 2
                os 2.2
                end
                
                # libdsk data below
                [san1]
                description = SAN1 Sanyo MBC-1000, MBC-1150 - DSDD 48 tpi 5.25" - 256 x 16
                sides = alt
                cylinders = 80
                heads = 2
                secsize = 256
                sectors = 16
                secbase = 1
                datarate = DD
                
                #GOTEK/Flashfloppy
                [san1]
                cyls = 80
                heads = 2
                secs = 16
                interleave = 3
                bps = 256
                id = 1
                #rpm = 360
                rpm = 300
                rate = 250
                mode = mfm
                iam = no
                
                
                $ cpmls -f san1 -D SMBC1100.RAW
                Name Bytes Recs Attr update create
                ------------ ------ ------ ---- ----------------- -----------------
                ASM .COM 8K 64 R
                BAR .BAS 2K 11 R
                BASIC .COM 30K 234 R
                CHR$ .BAS 2K 2 R
                CPM .SYS 4K 22 R
                DCOP .COM 4K 19 R
                DDT .COM 6K 38 R
                DDUMP .COM 4K 17 R
                DUMP .COM 2K 4 R
                ED .COM 8K 52 R
                FDUMP .COM 4K 24 R
                FILECOPY.COM 2K 11 R
                FORMAT .COM 2K 8 R
                FRCV .COM 2K 8 R
                FTRN .COM 2K 8 R
                LINE .COM 2K 8 R
                LOAD .COM 2K 14 R
                MERGE .COM 14K 110 R
                MOVCPM .COM 10K 76 R
                PIP .COM 8K 58 R
                SORT .COM 22K 162 R
                STAT .COM 6K 42 R
                SUBMIT .COM 2K 10 R
                SYSGEN .COM 2K 6 R
                VERIFY .COM 2K 8 R
                XCHG .COM 8K 58 R
                XREF .COM 10K 78 R
                XSUB .COM 2K 6 R
                28 Files occupying 172K, 138K Free.
                
                
                #cpmcp -f san1 SMBC1100.RAW 0:*.* /home/larry/IMDs/Sanyo-MBC-1000/SMBC-1100
                Required cylinders: 40
                Required heads : 2
                Data rate : 250kbps
                Double Density 16 Sectors x 256 bytes per sector


                Write the Image to a 5.25" DS/DD Floppy with IMD using 40 Tracks Single Step for a 360K Drive.
                Boot on the SBC.

                Larry
                Last edited by ldkraemer; May 17, 2021, 02:45 PM.

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                  #9
                  I'd be happy to buy bit from you but I'm in the UK..

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