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    #16
    Some times you just have to take a walk on the wild side. There's some pretty helpfull folk over at the forums at http://www.os2world.com/forum/
    Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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      #17
      Pegcity bits the home of praire bits and bytes a heritage lost yet not
      Heathkit h89 h77 h11 h10 with some extra bits
      Osborn 1 x2
      pdp8a with asr33 and documentation and software
      GE workmaster with series six PLC and ibm p70 (same as a ge workmaster 2)
      Commodore PC-10 II and other stuff

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        #18
        The 755CD already has 40MB. I didn't check the numbers but there are two modules on a board that plugs into the socket.

        What I need is a 16 bit PCMCIA ethernet card. I've got a D-Link DFE690 that I bought some years ago, but that's 32bit and D-Link is pretty sub-standard as far as drivers are concerned and it's just a nuisance card all around.

        I just looked on E-bay and there's nothing there except ones that require a separate purchase of an adaptor which then ends up making them double the price. Does anybody have any suggestions for best model with a chipset that has drivers for DOS/OS2/*nix?
        WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Ole Juul View Post
          The 755CD already has 40MB. I didn't check the numbers but there are two modules on a board that plugs into the socket.

          What I need is a 16 bit PCMCIA ethernet card. I've got a D-Link DFE690 that I bought some years ago, but that's 32bit and D-Link is pretty sub-standard as far as drivers are concerned and it's just a nuisance card all around.

          I just looked on E-bay and there's nothing there except ones that require a separate purchase of an adaptor which then ends up making them double the price. Does anybody have any suggestions for best model with a chipset that has drivers for DOS/OS2/*nix?
          Any of these any use:
          3Com 3CCFE575BT
          3Com 3CCFE575CT
          GVC 10Mbps Ethernet Adapter; no model#, FCC ID MQ4EC2T
          IBM Ethernet II p/n 42h4916

          Have some spare dongles as well.

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            #20
            Hawking Tech PN652 (10/100) PCMCIA cards are pretty good (no dongle needed since there is a socket built in to the card) and it works with WFW, OS/2, Win9x, DOS Netware, NT etc.
            What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
            Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
            Boxed apps and games for the above systems
            Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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              #21
              Thanks Mike. I'll check those out and get back to you.

              Originally posted by Unknown_K View Post
              Hawking Tech PN652 (10/100) PCMCIA cards are pretty good (no dongle needed since there is a socket built in to the card) and it works with WFW, OS/2, Win9x, DOS Netware, NT etc.
              Is that 16 bit? I went through about 5 pages of Google results and it looks like it wasn't marketed in English speaking countries.

              I need plain 16 bit DOS and OS/2 Warp drivers, but I'm just being fussy. I could just get a cheap card to try out OS/2 and then get another card later. Yes, the built in socket is best, but not a necessity for me.
              WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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                #22
                http://www.ebay.com/itm/XIRCOM-REALP...item337291e3f4 this should work


                http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-NEW...item53ed7cb416
                Pegcity bits the home of praire bits and bytes a heritage lost yet not
                Heathkit h89 h77 h11 h10 with some extra bits
                Osborn 1 x2
                pdp8a with asr33 and documentation and software
                GE workmaster with series six PLC and ibm p70 (same as a ge workmaster 2)
                Commodore PC-10 II and other stuff

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ole Juul View Post
                  Thanks Mike. I'll check those out and get back to you.



                  Is that 16 bit? I went through about 5 pages of Google results and it looks like it wasn't marketed in English speaking countries.

                  I need plain 16 bit DOS and OS/2 Warp drivers, but I'm just being fussy. I could just get a cheap card to try out OS/2 and then get another card later. Yes, the built in socket is best, but not a necessity for me.
                  Yes it is 16 bit, PCMCIA is 16 bit, 32bit is called CARDBUS (has those bumps on the copper strip at the bottom).

                  You can also use wireless if you get the Lucent silver Wavelan cards (Wireless B, WEP only silver is 64bit encryption, gold is 128bit).
                  What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                  Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                  Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                  Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unknown_K View Post
                    Yes it is 16 bit, PCMCIA is 16 bit, 32bit is called CARDBUS (has those bumps on the copper strip at the bottom).

                    You can also use wireless if you get the Lucent silver Wavelan cards (Wireless B, WEP only silver is 64bit encryption, gold is 128bit).
                    I was confused by all the offerings on eBay for 32bit PCMCIA. Boy, eBay requires a lot of research to figure out what people are selling. Anyway a Google search for "Hawking Tech PN652" brings up no reference to the hardware on the first 10 pages of results, so it might not be an easy thing to find.

                    I've thought about the Lucent wireless before, but I'll wait on that since it's more trouble to set up on miscellaneous machines with varying operating systems. Thanks for the reminder though. I think I've actually got the drivers handy for that one.

                    @1ajs: Yikes! The first one is $50 and the second might be about the same, though getting three cards is not a bad idea. Do you have DOS drivers for any of the Xircom cards?
                    WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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                      #25
                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Com-EtherLi...-/180906753772
                      What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                      Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                      Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                      Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ole Juul View Post
                        I was confused by all the offerings on eBay for 32bit PCMCIA. Boy, eBay requires a lot of research to figure out what people are selling. Anyway a Google search for "Hawking Tech PN652" brings up no reference to the hardware on the first 10 pages of results, so it might not be an easy thing to find.

                        I've thought about the Lucent wireless before, but I'll wait on that since it's more trouble to set up on miscellaneous machines with varying operating systems. Thanks for the reminder though. I think I've actually got the drivers handy for that one.

                        @1ajs: Yikes! The first one is $50 and the second might be about the same, though getting three cards is not a bad idea. Do you have DOS drivers for any of the Xircom cards?
                        i might still have my disks laying around
                        Pegcity bits the home of praire bits and bytes a heritage lost yet not
                        Heathkit h89 h77 h11 h10 with some extra bits
                        Osborn 1 x2
                        pdp8a with asr33 and documentation and software
                        GE workmaster with series six PLC and ibm p70 (same as a ge workmaster 2)
                        Commodore PC-10 II and other stuff

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by 1ajs View Post
                          i might still have my disks laying around
                          Thanks, but it's OK. I was just wondering (worrying?) if they were easily available. I've found them at Intel now.

                          After spending a couple of hours researching different cards and looking on eBay, I think I have some ideas. It looks like the Xircom cards are a good choice. What do you think about these choices:
                          $18 for one or
                          $21 for five.

                          I might go for the 5 since one of them is what I prefer and the other ones will still be useful.

                          PS: I just downloaded the drivers and they are packed with a *&%$# .EXE file that cannot easily be expanded. Perhaps the laptop will do it - we'll see.
                          Last edited by Ole Juul; June 16, 2012, 08:54 PM.
                          WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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                            #28
                            I realize my mistake here. After reading a lot and sorting through the mixed up vocabulary, I see that I ignored U_K's note about the brass strip. That is indeed a quick way to differentiate. I might just go for the suggestion of a 3Com EtherLink III Ethernet 3C589C, but am leaning toward the dongleless type. Xircom seems good, but the 16bit RE-100 does not have OS/2 drivers, and the RBE-100 does, but is 32bit and won't fit. I'm stuck on the driver thing. I've spent too many hours on this already, so probably I'll just write off the OS/2 thing as not worth the trouble. We'll see - tomorrow is another day.
                            Last edited by Ole Juul; June 17, 2012, 02:35 AM.
                            WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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                              #29
                              if u expand to other older laptops the 5 cards are nice to have to put them to use
                              Pegcity bits the home of praire bits and bytes a heritage lost yet not
                              Heathkit h89 h77 h11 h10 with some extra bits
                              Osborn 1 x2
                              pdp8a with asr33 and documentation and software
                              GE workmaster with series six PLC and ibm p70 (same as a ge workmaster 2)
                              Commodore PC-10 II and other stuff

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by 1ajs View Post
                                if u expand to other older laptops the 5 cards are nice to have to put them to use
                                You're right. The problem is that I'm all confused right now. I don't use laptops normally since they don't fit into my computing style and they're just for collection and mostly old. I just had this idea that I could try OS/2 a little bit, but it seems that drivers are a problem for that. I've already got one 32 bit PCMCIA card, but now would like a 16 bit one for functional DOS, fooling with old kit, and this OS/2 thing.

                                BTW, now my laptop collection has
                                1986 Toshiba 3100 (286) (720 floppy only)
                                1987 Sharp PC-4501 (V20) ((720K floppy only)
                                1994 Toshiba 1910 (486) (MS-Win 3.1)
                                1994 Thinkpad 755C (486) (OS/2)
                                1997 Toshiba 460CDT (P166) (Debian 5.0)

                                There's also PII and PIII Toshibas, but they're obviously not vintage. I think what I'd like to do is keep the HDD from the 755CD for use in the 755C and get rid of the rest of it. I'll PM you.
                                WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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