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    New road warior

    Just won a "new" laptop on eBay. It's a vintage Epson HX-20. I've wanted one for years, but this was the first affordable one I've seen ($20.00 bin) on eBay.

    Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

    Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.

    Nice to see...

    Terry, I'm glad to see others into portables besides myself... what else is in your collection? Mostly I collect handhelds and PDAs.

    - Evan
    @ Founder, Vintage Computer Federation -- resigned Dec. 2019
    @ Author, Abacus to smartphone: The evolution of mobile and portable computers
    @ My homepage
    @ My Lego Robotics Page


      Yeah, most of my collection is portable, including several Kaypros. I've already posted under "Your Collections" on this board, so I won't go into full details now, however, my collection has been undergoing some adjustments lately, so I'll update here. I swapped my Nixdorf and TI CC-40 for a (non-functional) Epson PX-8 (I've always wanter a CP/M laptop). I grabbed up this one for the manuals and other accessories that came with it. I have subsequently won an auction on eBay for another, functional unit, but it hasn't been delivered yet. Another hand-held I sold on eBay was my Hewlett-Packard HP-75C. I used the money to add a few other computers to my collection, including (besides the PX-, a TRS-80 Model 100, and a Zenith 8088 laptop (the older style, not the SuperSport), with hard drive. I'm still awaiting delivery on those, too. Other, more recent aquisitions include the HX-20 mentioned above, a Cambridge Z88, and an Ampro LittleBoard/186. I guess that pretty much covers my collection to date, subject to change without notice. So, what about your collection? Anything interesting?

      Oh yeah, BTW, a nice-looking Psion II LX just came up on eBay this morning. You might want to have a look at it, it seems cheap enough, at 5 pounds.

      Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

      Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.


        Well if I didn't think it was interesting, then I wouldn't collect it...

        My collection is mostly handhelds, including some that are so rare, most people don't know they are significant or worth anything.

        AST Gridpad 2390
        Apple Newton MessagePad 100
        Atari Portfolio
        Canon LC Palmtronic
        Casio AQ-2000
        Casio CQ-1
        Casio FX-7000G
        Casio IF-8000
        Casio PF-3000
        Casio PF-3200
        Casio PF-7000
        Casio PF-8000
        Casio XL-7000 Zoomer/Z-7000
        Craig M100
        HP 95LX
        Mattel Auto Race
        Nixdorf LK-3000
        Panasonic RL-H1400
        PSION Organizer
        Sharp IQ-7000
        Sharp OZ-7000
        Sony Magiclink
        Tandy (Radio Shack) EC-4002
        Tandy (Radio Shack) TRS-80 PC-1
        Tandy (Radio Shack) TRS-80 PC-5
        Toshiba LC-1019MN
        Toshiba LC-836MN
        Toshiba LC-840WA

        The only non-handhelds in my collection are a TRS-80 Model 200 laptop and an Atari 2600 (which I use far most often than my Playstation.)

        If you're ever in the New York/New Jersey area (or if you come to VCF East this summer), let's meet up. (That applies to anyone else reading this as well! I love to chat (i.e., brag) about my collection.
        @ Founder, Vintage Computer Federation -- resigned Dec. 2019
        @ Author, Abacus to smartphone: The evolution of mobile and portable computers
        @ My homepage
        @ My Lego Robotics Page


          Nice collection. Which module(s) do you have for the Nixdorf? And, why does the Model 200 not qualify as a hand-held? Is it the size of it? (It certainly qualifies as an organizer/diary).

          Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

          Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.