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AS400 job listings, I am shocked these are still in use

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    AS400 job listings, I am shocked these are still in use

    While perusing the job listings I am finding that a LOT of people are asking for AS400 experience. I am totally up for that kind of environment, I bet graduates coming out today have ever laid eyes on one. I am about to contact this one manufacturing place to see if a position exists, I can dive right into something like that.

    Imagine using a computer from the 1980's, a mini no less, to do modern manufacturing. I am totally for using yesterday's tech to make new stuff. If they have parts units I know I will be drooling to take one home. Amazing. I just hope that its the same thing I am familiar with and not some new thing that is also named AS400.
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    I don't want to sound offended here, but you are little out of date. First, there is no AS/400 anymore. It's an i Series. Second, the tech is as up to date as it gets.

    On the hardware side it runs on Power 7, the latest and greatest chips from IBM. It has a hypervisor layer that blows away the function in any x86 based virtualization later, and has had it for over 10 years. All of the hardware is up to date, including the newest drives and storage technologies. And it's been 64 bit since 1994 - in fact OS/400 was the first commercially available operating system to be 64 bits throughout, not just in certain libraries.

    So what exactly is so 80s about this machine?


      Next they'll be asking for RS/6000 experience!?!?!

      No, seriously, though, everything Mike said. And wasn't the AS/400, when it was named the AS/400, a machine of the 90's and into the 2000's? (Not sure when the AS/400 turned into the i, but I remember assiting a bank with their Y2K conversion from the old beige AS/400 that took up 3 racks to a shiny new balck model, that stood about 3 feet high).


        The first version of the AS/400 came out in 1988. It was based on the S/38.

        So clearly not 'ancient' technology. And it's been kept up to date. We like to call it IBM's best kept secret.


          I was thinking that they meant the ones from 1988, so yes, not ancient but older tech. I stand corrected, just not familiar with manufacturing minis these days. When I find out more I will be more and more intrigued. They still have to get back to me, not sure if they are actually using machines from the 90's or today's stuff.

          Since you guys are more up on it, what do they mean by Windows 2003 and 2008? I am totally unfamiliar with those. Also, where is that mentioned on that ad, about the latest and greatest? I read none of that on that ad, simply a LAN/WAN environment and the AS400 platform.
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            Just a guess, but I suspect they mean Windows Server 2003 and 2008.
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              Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
              Just a guess, but I suspect they mean Windows Server 2003 and 2008.

              correct. 2003 is the server version of XP. and 2008 is akin to vista.
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                I will have to agree with Brutman on this. The Iseries machines are extremely powerful. The last company I was with had one.
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                  The (>=1988 AS/400, >=2000 iSeries, >=2006 System i) is a wonderful platform. It is still used accross the globe in many organizations. In my profession I see many data centers but unfortunately there seems to be a trend to move away from Sun, IBM and other non Windows based operating systems in favor of Windows and Linux based operating systems or shutting down data centers almost completely to move everything to the cloud.

                  As with any computer power the size ratio has been extremely aggresive over the decades:


                    Is it still called OS/400? And does it run on any power hardware, or is there special hardware required?


                      I'm not sure what the official name of the OS is this week - it changes too often. But those of us inside of the blue walls still call it an AS/400 and it runs OS/400.

                      As for hardware, the current machines being sold run on Power7. Power 6 is supported. Power 5 probably runs too, but if it is not "end of life" it will be getting there shortly. As always, an iSeries is not a generic PowerPC box - there is code and other thingies in there to enable OS/400 to install and run. This helps IBM extract some revenue from customers.


                        Originally posted by luckybob View Post
                        correct. 2003 is the server version of XP. and 2008 is akin to vista.
                        And, parting from their typical naming, 2008 R2 is the Windows 7 analogue (and the first to only come in x64).

                        I'd love to have one of those B10 (or B20, but I imagine anything but the B10 is overkill) cases to mount a normal desktop into..
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                          I can't even begin to tell you how many of those B20s we pulled out of medical practices in the late 90s.

                          The 400/i/whatevertheycallitthismonth has been an incredibly stable, versatile platform since 1988. That means for over 20 years IBM has been producing and enhancing the hardware and the operating system itself. I'm sure at some point IBM will ring the curtain down on these venerable machines, but I hope it isn't any time soon. I love mine, though I wouldn't mind getting a newer model, and I am confident that it will be running long after any windoze box shoved into the same type of environment has croaked.
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                            One of the last TV commercials that I saw for OS/2 was its use in connection with AS/400 hardware.
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                              TV commerical for OS/2? Chuck, are you implying that IBM tried to market OS/2 at some point?