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ATI VGA WONDER 16 Looking for software or solution

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  • Anonymous Coward
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    There was the 5175 Professional Graphics Display, which uses the same chassis as the 5154. It's analogue like VGA, but uses a 9 pin connector. As far as I know you can build a passive adapter to easily convert it to VGA. On the graphics card end, there was a PS/2 display adapter which I think was designed for the PS/2 model 30, but also advertised to work in the PC, XT and AT. I don't believe IBM really sold it with the AT though because it came out around the time the AT was discontinued, but I think I heard in the French market where the AT sold slightly longer they offered it with a 12" PS/2 colour display.

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  • psbsp
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    Works like a charm! 512 in it. The other card I have is the diamond flower vg-6000. I'll give the two a comparison when I can. Glad to know the VGA wonder series are good cards. I'm new to this forum and appreciate all the help. I had always been interested in infocoms interactive fiction so set up a 5150 with 5151 for that.... but of course that became the beginning. Then the 5160, currently with 5154 and now the 5170 with a sony vga, may end up moving the 5154 to the 5170 anyway. Was there a VGA that was favored around the era of 5170? Or was the EGA the best match at the time? thanks to everyone for the great first puzzle solved using the forum.

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  • Agent Orange
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    Great card in its day but it was pricey - $500 to $700. I couldn't afford it back then.

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  • dhau
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    Originally posted by psbsp View Post
    Oh! just saw the scans of the box. perfect. just got it working and am still testing it out. thanks again!
    So your VGA card works normal now? Congratulation! Out of all ISA VGA cards, I get the best picture with ATI VGA Wonder cards.

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  • psbsp
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    Oh! just saw the scans of the box. perfect. just got it working and am still testing it out. thanks again!

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  • psbsp
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    Thank you mikey!!! All set. appreciate the help.

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  • mikey99
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    The VGA Wonder 16 is an amazing card, supports many different monitors MDA/CGA/EGA/VGA.
    The card even works in an 8-bit slot. The designers of this card did a great job providing support for
    users with older monitors MDA/CGA/EGA, and also supporting VGA. I still have the VGA Wonder
    I bought new in 1988 ! Here are scans of the box, the table shows all the various monitors etc that
    are supported.


    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...1&d=1235105179

    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...2&d=1235105588

    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...3&d=1235106272


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  • mikey99
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    The manual for your card is located here :
    http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/manu...ly%201988).pdf

    I'm attaching a zip file of the ATI VGA Wonder first diskette files that contains VSETUP.



    Attached Files

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  • psbsp
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    Checkit says cpu is 8.01 mhz. I don't think I have another eeprom chip but I will look. would it do any good to erase it and reinsert? Unfortunately don't have a 386/486 to test... could test it in an XT? I think i read it would work in 8 bit but maybe I'm misremembering.

    Mikey99, I have been trying vinstall. Ill look around for vsetup, or if you can point me in the right direction.. great. thanks

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  • mikey99
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    Did you run the VSETUP tool from the ATI diskette ? VSETUP is used to set the default video mode or default monitor type.

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  • dhau
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    Originally posted by psbsp View Post
    is the eeprom chip different than the bios? what do I need to do to swap? do i program it with anything? also have not had luck locating the v3m-1.0 bios. did find a v3m-1.0/70 ...
    eeprom is different, it's just a rewritable memory for a few dozen bytes. It's not the 27c256 type ROM chips. Don't change bios, it won't do any good.

    Did you try it on other boards? May be something a bit more recent, like 386 or 486?

    Does 5170 board have 6MHz or 8MHz CPU? At 6MHz a lot of ISA cards seem to glitch, at least for me.

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  • psbsp
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    It's set for color but I'm using a different bios. I will try the original bios and use the advanced diagnostics program.

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  • Eudimorphodon
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    Just for a sanity check: is the color/mono switch on the 5170's motherboard set for mono or color? The ATI Wonder manual says:

    When installing the VGAWONDER in the IBM PC/AT it is necessary to set the video display switch (Color/Mono switch) on the AT motherboard to Color and run the IBM Advanced Diagnostics Program which will automatically configure the System for an EGA (Enhanced Graphics Adapter) Card, which is the category for the VGA WONDER.

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  • psbsp
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    is the eeprom chip different than the bios? what do I need to do to swap? do i program it with anything? also have not had luck locating the v3m-1.0 bios. did find a v3m-1.0/70 ...

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  • psbsp
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    checkit says mda video adapter with 4k video ram ...hmm

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