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    Tandy 1000 Upgrades.

    Okay, so I have a pretty basic Tandy 1000 with a memory expansion card so it has 640k, a 5.25 inch drive, and a 3.5 inch drive that I believe is 720k. I would like to put in a hard drive and install MS-DOS 3 on it, but I'm not sure what I need to do. Plus, is there a way I can copy files from a modern PC onto a 3.5 inch disk and use them in the 1000?

    One final question: Would this work and allow me to use the multitude of Gameport joysticks on the 1000?:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-PC-XT-8-...item35a341ac3b

    #2
    Still need help on this, plus I found this ISA card:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    What would I need to do to get either of these running on a 1000? I want to use a serial mouse/Gameport joysticks.

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      #3
      Tvdog, he has a VERY extensive tandy resource site with many how-to's and such

      http://www.oldskool.org/guides/tvdog
      Nothing beats the roar of a 36yr old drive coming to life after a decade in storagg

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        #4
        Only from memory, there are MFM hard drive upgrade cards, parallel port cards, CD rom plus card kits, all kinds of things for Tandy specifically. Which 1000 is it? Pics!
        The ancients knew *more* than us...
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          #5
          Here's a picture of it:


          It's an original 1000. It has composite out, and 640k.

          How would I take the Tandy 1000 files that I download and load them on an original system?

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            #6
            Cool! I love the keyboards in particular, they have personality. I have the same joystick, these are such fun machines. Do you have the deskmate software for it?

            As far as the 1000 goes, I actually compared it to the Xbox360 in that this one has intelligence behind the cooling system, and that we've known about how to have good cooling for a long time. Tandy used to make really cool machines.

            /edit We were posting at the same time. You can use a machine with a similar disk drive or format it at 720K and transfer that way. There's also serial transfer, need a crossover serial cable (null modem) or all-out ethernet, if you can find one that will work with it. I'd try on Win98 if you have a machine with it on it. I've had good luck formatting floppies in 720K more than anything newer.
            Last edited by NathanAllan; April 11, 2010, 05:10 PM.
            The ancients knew *more* than us...
            http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/index.php They're baaaack!

            Come and see http://www.gamegavel.com for all your gaming needs! We have Zero-ohm resistors!

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              #7
              I can format disks in 720k even on my modern PC, but I'll have to try on my Windows 98.

              I don't have Deskmate, all that has been running in this was DOS 3.1 and literally nothing else. I'm looking at a couple of games on eBay like Alien Syndrome and Sim City, but I think I should add a serial port expansion card to use a serial mouse. I could also add a Gameport adapter, since I have two open ISA slots.

              Do those just plug in and work, or do they need installation?

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                #8
                I have a Tandy 1000 SX with the same setup , 3.5 inch and 5.25 inch floppies.
                Mine also has a Tandy hard card, I think its 20MB. Looks like a standard small
                Miniscribe hard drive mounted on a metal frame with a Western Digital controller
                card.

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                  #9
                  Any pictures of your setup?

                  I just formatted some floppies on Windows 98 and tried to run them in the Tandy 1000, and it gives me a "file not found" error when I try to pull up the directory of the B: drive.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tupin
                    I just formatted some floppies on Windows 98 and tried to run them in the Tandy 1000, and it gives me a "file not found" error when I try to pull up the directory of the B: drive.
                    That is normal when the disk is blank and has no files on it yet.

                    I also have an original Tandy 1000. It is possible to add a hard drive, but it's really not ideal, due to the limited number of expansion slots and drive bays. So you really already have the ideal configuration: 640K RAM, and 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives. And an official Tandy monitor and joystick, too!

                    You could replace the 8088 chip with a NEC V20 for a slight performance boost (10% to 30%) and improved compatibility with newer DOS programs (many which would otherwise require a 286 or higher will also run on a V20), but those are getting hard to find and expensive.

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                      #11
                      It did have files on it, ones downloaded from DOS game sites.

                      Might have to look for a V20 chip. Is this what I need?:

                      http://cgi.ebay.com/NEC-D70108C-8-V2...item5190be312d

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tupin View Post
                        It did have files on it, ones downloaded from DOS game sites.

                        Might have to look for a V20 chip. Is this what I need?:

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/NEC-D70108C-8-V2...item5190be312d
                        Yes... in fact, I had my eye on the ceramic V20 from that seller. In your case, the Tandy runs cool enough that you'd be just fine with the cheaper plastic version, especially since you'd be underclocking the chip at only 4.77 MHz vs. its rated speed of 8 MHz.

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                          #13
                          Check that disk, and also run a head cleaner through both drives. I think there is a setting somewhere in Win98 that you can tell it how to format, probably in the format command. Also you may want to try to format it in a DOS window, http://www.computerhope.com/formathl.htm, there's a site to some more info if you need it.

                          What I would really love to find is a SCSI card for mine, and a nice heavy enclosure for a full height drive-- just got a 2GB SCSI full-height and would love to have it linked up to my Tandy.

                          Anything in DOS has to have drivers, every piece of hardware that I can remember, be it a card or drive or anything had a setup disk.

                          Thinking of that, a SCSI card would have an external connector to let you use things like SCSI hdd's and CD-roms.
                          The ancients knew *more* than us...
                          http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/index.php They're baaaack!

                          Come and see http://www.gamegavel.com for all your gaming needs! We have Zero-ohm resistors!

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                            #14
                            I guess I could try to clean it, the one time I got anything out of floppies was when I was trying old Apogee software and it just gave me gibberish. I don't have a cleaner, and I don't know how to get through the metal casing to get to the floppy drive.

                            The 8088 is socketed, correct?

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                              #15
                              I have a 20MB hardcard but it's too big to fit inside my SX. I took it apart, made a holder out of cardboard for the drive, and it now recognizes it. Still won't boot but I'm working on it. I think I need to change a jumper on the motherboard to allow it to boot. I'll keep reading through that awesome Tandy 1000 FAQ.
                              Last edited by tremoloman2006; April 12, 2010, 07:35 AM. Reason: my stupidity

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