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Windows "Premiere Edition" on 4 5.25 inch Floppies

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    #16
    Nice picture, those disks look different from the original poster. Do you know if they still have the original content? I think trueyanksfan posted elsewhere that his first three disks were overwritten (but he never did share the contents). (Suggestion: write protect those ASAP)

    Alias, (Nice nick -- says user SomeGuy ) Roughly where about are you located? Perhaps someone nearby can help you archive the disks, if you have not already done so?

    Would you mind at least posting a few more, higher resolution pictures or scans?

    I think trueyanksfan only posted the one picture, leaving some room for speculation that it might have been PhotoShopped.

    In the off chance you haven't been following along, a way while back, some nutjob released an incredibly complete hack up Windows 1.01 that claimed to be Windows PE. Looks like a passable release, except there are no code differences. That has caused quite a bit of commotion elsewhere.

    On a related note, there is someone on eBay selling what they claim is an unopened box of "Windows 1.00".
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Micr.../381070622290?
    Not sure how they figure that.

    Personally, as far as I am concerned anything starting with "Microsoft" can rot, but it would be good to put some of the controversy to rest.
    Last edited by SomeGuy; December 1, 2014, 09:25 AM.

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      #17
      like it or not microsoft is a very large part of early IBM era pc computing. That ebay could be genuine, one would have to crack the box to find out. But i like the side not, PC compatible, but NOT pc/jr.....
      Nothing beats the roar of a 36yr old drive coming to life after a decade in storagg

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        #18
        Originally posted by SomeGuy View Post
        Nice picture, those disks look different from the original poster..
        If you bother to enlarge the pics of both you will see they are the same. It's just that the OPs labels have been written on in pen at some point, most likely indicating they have been over written. Hence the reason for no disk images from the OP I'm guessing.

        There's been a price sticker on that ebay box a some point.
        Last edited by Caluser2000; November 30, 2014, 09:42 PM.
        Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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          #19
          Originally posted by Alias View Post
          I also have a set of these. Not fake!
          [ATTACH=CONFIG]21622[/ATTACH]
          Oh! Great!
          Can you dump it?
          If you want, I can dump original 1.03 / 1.04 if you need.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Caluser2000 View Post
            If you bother to enlarge the pics of both you will see they are the same. It's just that the OPs labels have been written on in pen at some point, most likely indicating they have been over written.
            While I agree that they look *very* much identical, they aren't. The level of wear is different, too different to show the same disks. This can be seen especially at the additional sticker on the label of disk 2, which is also aligned in another way.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Caluser2000 View Post
              OPs labels have been written on in pen at some point
              That's what I meant by different; This isn't the same OP trying to tease us again.

              Alias, would you care to share any known history about the disks you have? Such as where did you obtain them?

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                #22
                Originally posted by SomeGuy View Post
                That's what I meant by different; This isn't the same OP trying to tease us again.

                Alias, would you care to share any known history about the disks you have? Such as where did you obtain them?
                I worked as an intern at Microsoft in the summer of 1985 when the premiere edition shipped (just like in Tandy Trower's story) and have had them ever since. I installed them on my old IBM PC/XT the other day and they work great. I don't have a way to dump them yet but I ordered the stuff I need and will do it when I get it. Maybe in a few weeks? BTW, I posted this on Facebook because I thought it was funny that people didn't believe that this version exists and got a lot of responses, some from other Microsoft people who were there. One even posted an image of his set of disks along with a picture of a box? You can find that here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

                Hope this helps.

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                  #23
                  That is a wonderful story! Please keep us in mind if/when you get the disk images created also!

                  Wesley

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by wesleyfurr View Post
                    That is a wonderful story! Please keep us in mind if/when you get the disk images created also!

                    Wesley
                    Now, Disk Images of Windows 1.0 PE is leaked by Alias. Thanks to Alias for great contribution.

                    Also Windows 1.01 / 1.03 / 1.04 was dumped and leaked correctly.

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                      #25
                      Leaked sounds so dramatic. At least that shut up a lot of folk up. Cheers Alias for sharing.

                      What other versions of MS GUIs/OSs are folk still after.
                      Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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                        #26
                        I guess I could assume it's at vetusware.. probably.
                        I'll look someday when I'm not on my phone?
                        Wanted: Sony CDU-535 or CDU6250 CD-ROM Drive (Caddy drive) for 8-bit Sony Interface Card
                        sigpic <-- This is me using my IBM PC 5150 over Ethernet TCP/IP network with assignable drive letters

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                          #27
                          BAs FTP no less.

                          Here's the thread discussing it http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/vie...386272#p386272

                          Of course I'd never post a direct link to the file involved That would be against vcfs rules.

                          Not overly excited myself. Mind you I'm a Windows 3.x guy at heart.
                          Last edited by Caluser2000; December 20, 2014, 08:49 PM.
                          Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Caluser2000 View Post
                            At least that shut up a lot of folk up. Cheers Alias for sharing.
                            Well, now they will be chattering about what ever happened to version "1.00"...

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                              #29
                              I see they can't lower themselves to host the China Dos Unions MS Dos 7.1. Not authenic you see.
                              Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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                                #30
                                It will be interesting if any of the software archeologists takes a look and finds the bugs that got removed late in the development cycle.

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