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    IDE-CF adapter

    Is this a good IDE to CF adapter setup, and is it a reasonable price? Is there another unit that forum members here recommend?

    http://r.ebay.com/UxdLs6

    or item#172203009082 for the link wary.

    Thanks,

    ian

    #2
    Personally i think it's very expensive, If you're handy with a soldering iron you can build one your self a lot cheaper, See Lo-Tech for the PCB

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      #3
      And for that price you don't even get the activity LED or XT Slot 8 support.

      If you want one pre-assembled they are being sold on Amibay a bit cheaper. The CF adaptor, card and cable can be sourced from eBay cheaply.
      http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?81846

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        #4
        IMO you're better off with a DOM. Then you only need the XTIDE card. No CF adapter is necessary. Besides, DOMs are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less fickle than CF cards.
        PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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          #5
          I'm doing a run of XT-IDE boards, lots of mechanical changes resulting in a rev 3 board. The boards should be $10-15 for a bare board, I'm going to sell parts kits and fully assembled/tested units as well. Price seems high for what it is. I also agree with using DOMs instead, and will be providing them as well.

          See this thread for more info and preorder link:

          http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthrea...g-XT-IDE-Cards
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            #6
            I have had very good luck with cf to ide adapters from eBay its always the cards that let me down

            It's got to be in a specific mode to work as a non removable drive and good luck

            Get a disk on module(Dom)

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              #7
              Originally posted by Stone View Post
              IMO you're better off with a DOM. Then you only need the XTIDE card. No CF adapter is necessary. Besides, DOMs are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less fickle than CF cards.
              I agree that a DOM has certain advantages over a CF card, but they aren't as easy to access. In my PCjr. I have had nothing but trouble with a PQI DOM. My CF card had no issues and they are easier to find new.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Great Hierophant View Post
                I agree that a DOM has certain advantages over a CF card, but they aren't as easy to access. In my PCjr. I have had nothing but trouble with a PQI DOM. My CF card had no issues and they are easier to find new.
                I've been using a 2GB DOM for a couple of years in my tweener without any issues whatsoever. The guy I got it from on eBay is still selling this DOM and it's even cheaper now -- under $15.
                PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by glitch View Post
                  The boards should be $10-15 for a bare board, I'm going to sell parts kits and fully assembled/tested units as well.
                  I've seen your price estimates for boards, kits, etc., but you didn't mention what you might be looking to get for the fully assembled units. Care to take a stab at this? I can't put one together.
                  PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Osgeld View Post
                    I have had very good luck with cf to ide adapters from eBay its always the cards that let me down

                    It's got to be in a specific mode to work as a non removable drive and good luck

                    Get a disk on module(Dom)
                    Yep I use DOMs with both of my XT-IDE setups due to weird data corruption issues with IDE->CF adaptors.

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                      #11
                      I don't own any DOMs, I've never had any major problems using CF, CF is cheap and it makes it so easy to transfer files from my main PC to my old PC / XT's, Maybe I've just been lucky.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bjt View Post
                        Yep I use DOMs with both of my XT-IDE setups due to weird data corruption issues with IDE->CF adaptors.
                        If you're talking about the original XTIDE board, there are two potential issues - first, that CompactFlash is a CMOS specification and therefore transceivers need to be HCT type, and secondly the timing in the 16-to-8 MUX in that design is not to specification. Furthermore CF-to-IDE adapters sometimes implement card power supply very badly.

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                          #13
                          I have a Lo-Tech XT-IDE -> IDE-CF setup I bought from a guy on our favorite auction site. As received it works like a champ in my IBM 5160. No problems whatsoever. The "fly in the soup" that makes it less than perfect was finding additional CF cards that would work with it for backup purposes. Of the 10 or so CF cards of various sizes I regularly use with my DSLR, only one identifies itself on boot and then only part of the time. Of the two recommended Samsung cards I bought at a big box store, neither identify at all. I backed up a step and identified the origin of the 1M card that came with my unit and ordered 5 1M cards and 5 2M cards from them. Out of the stack I received, one card identifies.

                          Keep in mind that the CF card was not designed as a replacement for a vintage hard drive. So the fact that they sometimes work in that application is just our good luck. OTOH, my understanding is that the DOM was designed as a hard drive replacement. As it is, I now have what I need to do what I want with my 5160. However, as soon as time allows me to cycle back to this issue I plan to order a few DOM's to try out.
                          "It's all bits on the bus, Cowboy! It's all bits on the bus!" -- Tom Beck, #1ESS Instructor, Southern Bell Opa Locka Training Center

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pearce_jj View Post
                            If you're talking about the original XTIDE board, there are two potential issues - first, that CompactFlash is a CMOS specification and therefore transceivers need to be HCT type, and secondly the timing in the 16-to-8 MUX in that design is not to specification. Furthermore CF-to-IDE adapters sometimes implement card power supply very badly.
                            The ones I have are this type:
                            https://www.lo-tech.co.uk/wiki/Lo-te...ter_revision_2

                            Still don't know what the problem was, but depending on the CF card and the adaptor I used the card would not be recognised either all the time or occasionally.
                            I also saw random garbage in the CF Card identification string and a case where I was able to boot from CF but not to write anything.
                            I now use the PQI Industrial DOMs plugged directly into the ISA card and have no issues.

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                              #15
                              That 2GB DOM I mentioned in my previous post is a deal at under $15 and the same place currently has an 8GB DOM for under $25.
                              PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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