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IBM 5162 / 5170 and XUB

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    #16
    Originally posted by modem7 View Post
    .....Now, to the OP's and my surprise, the OP has an XT-IDE functioning in his IBM 5162, a 5162 with its original IBM BIOS ROM's fitted......
    Just to be clear, I have been testing with 16-bit IDE / Floppy / Combo controllers with the XUB R602 in a Lo-Tech ROM board with no problems, I am now using a 16-bit IDE / Floppy controller which has it's own socketed onboard bios, I removed the onboard Bios ROM and fitted an XUB ROM which freed up a slot the Rom board was using. It is also working just fine.

    I personally wouldn't use an 8-bit XT-IDE in an AT, I do have Original Rev 1 / 2 and 4 VCF XT-IDE's though i have not yet tested them this time round.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Malc View Post
      Just to be clear, I have been testing with 16-bit IDE / Floppy / Combo controllers with the XUB R602 in a Lo-Tech ROM board with no problems, ...
      Sorry. Confusion on my part. Somehow I thought that you were referring to the well known XTIDEcard/IBM5170 (XTIDEcard/IBM5162) issue.

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        #18
        Originally posted by modem7 View Post
        Sorry. Confusion on my part. Somehow I thought that you were referring to the well known XTIDEcard/IBM5170 (XTIDEcard/IBM5162) issue.
        I am sorta As with the Original VCF 8-bit XT-IDE's the same issue's were seen when using 16-bit IDE / Floppy controllers by myself and others on this forum, Way back when i last tested i had the same issues with both the 8-bit VCF XT-IDE's and 16-bit IDE / Floppy / Combo controllers when using the Original IBM 5162 / 5170 Bios.

        I will test my VCF XT-IDE R4 in my 5162 using XUB R602 today and report back with the results.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Malc View Post
          ....I will test my VCF XT-IDE R4 in my 5162 using XUB R602 today and report back with the results.
          I tested my XT-IDE R2 and R4 cards in my 5162 with XUB R602 and the original IBM 5162 BIOS, After much faffing about it was a Total FAILURE.

          The IBM 5162 Bios expects to see a * compatible * IDE / Floppy controller, With just an XT-IDE R2 or R4 card fitted or the XT-IDE R2 or R4 and a floppy controller fitted, On Boot up it throws a "601-Diskette Error" and "162-System Options Not Set-(Run Setup) (Resume = "F1" Key), I press the F1 key and it continues to boot from the CF card, I run the Lo-tech "DiskTest" and it FAILS on the Media Test with many Block errors, OR it freezes part way thru the Media Test, I Reboot and find my CF is not recognized by the XUB because it's trashed, I had to do a complete wipe and reinstall of DOS.

          Fitting the Original IBM 5162 Hard drive / Floppy combo card and connecting the floppy drive to it got rid of the 601 and 162 errors, On boot up there were no errors and it booted into DOS, I ran DiskTest and again it failed on the MediaTest and ended up corrupting the CF.

          I tried everything i could think of, Re-configuring the XUB but it was a no go all the way.It seem's they are just not compatible with the IBM 5162 BIOS, Using The AMI Bios i had no problems.

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            #20
            I'm not surprised by that outcome - but just to reiterate: the latest release of XUB works fine with the original IBM BIOS if you use a 16-bit IDE card, correct?

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              #21
              Originally posted by maxtherabbit View Post
              I'm not surprised by that outcome - but just to reiterate: the latest release of XUB works fine with the original IBM BIOS if you use a 16-bit IDE card, correct?
              Yes correct, My 5162 is working well with the Original IBM 5162 BIOS, XUB R602 and 16-bit IDE / Floppy controller, I'll be keeping the Original IBM Bios in from now on. I have not tested the same in my 5170 as it currently has a dead PSU. It's a bit of a puzzler as when i tested way back i got the Errors and corruption, The only thing i can think of that changed since then and now is the XUB revision.

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                #22
                I pulled out a 5170 type 1 Mobo with 256k onboard and original BIOS ROMS 1/10/84, I used XUB R602 and tested with my XT-IDE R2 and R4 cards and I also tested with my 16-Bit IDE / Floppy controllers I could not access any Hard drive, Spinning rust / CF or SD card in adapters Using either the XT-IDE or the 16-bit controllers, With the AMI BIOS it all worked fine.

                I upgraded to the second version of the IBM 5170 BIOS 6/10/85, It was a no go using the R2 / R4 XT-IDE cards but my 16-bit IDE / Floppy controllers worked with the second IBM Bios, I ran Disktest Mediatest with no problems, I did no more testing.

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