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NUXT v2.0 motherboard is now available!

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    #16
    It's kind of like the guy who builds a kit car in lieu of restoring the original. I think it's an ideal project for the person(s) who like to dabble with older software like games and such, but do not possess the know-how or, have the time and resources for the original thing. This project may affect the vintage reseller's bottom line but that's the way it goes in the business world. I don't think that the price is out of line considering the time and engineering that went into it. Would I buy it? Probably not at this point in time, as I have a fully functional 5160 in its original box that been setting on a shelf for over 6 years and I haven'r even bothered to look at at (yeah! - real neat with manuals and software). Just my opinion and I'm sure it will rankle some.
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      #17
      Originally posted by NeXT View Post
      I'm not entirely familiar with the development history of the NUXT, but WHY is the Video mezzanine based around a Trident video chip? Those were not stellar DOS performers.
      I recall Trident as being fairly common and I'm guessing it's a stable base line.... 'Oak' was another one... 'Paradise'....

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        #18
        Personally I think it's "fine". If nothing else it's an interesting novelty having a new-build XT that fits in a modern case, and while $340 isn't "cheap" it's also not exactly exorbitant considering it's a fully manufactured new item that relies on a few semi-hard-to-find parts. Inflation-adjust for, say, 1988 dollars and it's like buying a populated 1MB turbo XT motherboard with a full set of multi-IO interfaces and a VGA card for only about $160, which would be one heck of a deal.

        Maybe it just doesn't seem like an unreasonably expensive toy to me living in a world where people pay $800 for branded Lego sets.
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          #19
          Got the system put together. It's working well except the BIOS reports my 5.25" 360K drive B: as a 1.44MB floppy even though I have the drive type set properly. Probably a bug in the BIOS and I will have to report this to Monotech. Tried using DRIVPARM in the config.sys, but that is not working. This only affects trying to format floppies and I can do that on one of the other XT class machines I have, so not a big deal at this point. I added an Adlib sound card, ISA game port card, and a Lo-Tech 2MB EMS board to the system. Really pleased overall on how it is working.

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            #20
            Originally posted by jasa1063 View Post
            ...BIOS reports my 5.25" 360K drive B: as a 1.44MB floppy even though I have the drive type set properly...
            Try disconnecting pin 34 on the floppy cable at the 360k drive. This pin is used for DSKCHG on high density drives but on 360k drives it is usually disconnected or is sometimes used for DISK Ready. This can confuse some floppy controllers, if pin 34 is disconnected, the drive will still function perfectly and you might find the problem goes away.

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              #21
              Originally posted by ibmapc View Post
              Try disconnecting pin 34 on the floppy cable at the 360k drive. This pin is used for DSKCHG on high density drives but on 360k drives it is usually disconnected or is sometimes used for DISK Ready. This can confuse some floppy controllers, if pin 34 is disconnected, the drive will still function perfectly and you might find the problem goes away.
              Thanks, I will give that a try, otherwise I got around the problem by using Norton Utilities SF (Safe Format) utility. This formats the diskettes just fine as it seems to honor the DRIVPARM config in option I setup in the CONFIG.SYS.

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                #22
                I heard back from Monotech. There was a bug in the BIOS. I flashed the updated version and it is now working properly

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Trixter View Post
                  This is why I don't really "get" the NuXT boards. If someone can clue me in as to what the market for these are, I'd appreciate it.
                  I think it is because the people who want one of those ATX boards have plenty of more modern and reliable parts around then us old farts with stacks of PC/XT/AT parts around.

                  Lets assume you have 0 spare parts around, now go price out a decent ISA IDE, video, Adlib sound card. Do the same for a decent case with working AT power supply and find a serial mouse, AT keyboard, working HD. All that stuff costs a decent chunk of change on ebay these days with reliability concerns. Using a modern ATX case and power supply without extra adapters and cheap PS/2 keyboards and mice makes life cheaper and easier plus the motherboard is NEW.

                  I have been collecting for so long now I sometimes forget that the hoard of parts and machines I snagged a long time ago for free or close to it command a decent amount of money now if you can find them. Having grown up before the IBM PC revolution I also have that old knowledge of getting all that crap to work.
                  What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                  Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                  Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                  Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jasa1063 View Post
                    I heard back from Monotech. There was a bug in the BIOS. I flashed the updated version and it is now working properly
                    Cool. That is the kind of support you need. When there is a Glitch you need to get rid if it as soon as possible.
                    Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unknown_K View Post
                      I think it is because the people who want one of those ATX boards have plenty of more modern and reliable parts around then us old farts with stacks of PC/XT/AT parts around.

                      Lets assume you have 0 spare parts around, now go price out a decent ISA IDE, video, Adlib sound card. Do the same for a decent case with working AT power supply and find a serial mouse, AT keyboard, working HD. All that stuff costs a decent chunk of change on ebay these days with reliability concerns. Using a modern ATX case and power supply without extra adapters and cheap PS/2 keyboards and mice makes life cheaper and easier plus the motherboard is NEW.

                      I have been collecting for so long now I sometimes forget that the hoard of parts and machines I snagged a long time ago for free or close to it command a decent amount of money now if you can find them. Having grown up before the IBM PC revolution I also have that old knowledge of getting all that crap to work.
                      Those were exactly my concerns about having aging equipment. I at least wanted one XT class system that was brand new and could be paired with relatively inexpensive add-ons. The NuXT fills that need. I still like my old Tandy 1000s better, but as time passes those will need more and more servicing and expensive to keep going.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by NeXT View Post
                        This is going to be an unpopular post but it's marketed at people who are too stupid to know better. People who like to throw money at problems to get a solution and people who don't like working with old hardware because somehow *old* old computers is hard.
                        You may have a point with the hardware but you will have to deal with the software side of things, setting up and using MS-DOS, dealing with memory/CPU limitations which come with an XT class system. So you're not getting a complete "ready to play" solution which you don't have to work on.

                        For the record it's not for me either as I prefer working with vintage gear right down to not even using modern solutions like XT IDE, Gotek Floppy Emulators unless I have no other alternative. But after seeing this video by LGR on a build he did using the first version of the NUXT I must admit that having built literally 1000's of modern computers over the years there is something appealing about doing a new build with new old tech. I've seen people put modern components in old chassis which makes me cringe but this is a different take which I quite liked.

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                          #27
                          I just wanted to report back I tested a Sound Blaster Vibra16X CT4170 and it works just fine. You have to set the high and low DMA both to channel 1. Here is the relevant portion of my AUTOEXEC.BAT file:

                          SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H1 P330 T6
                          SET CTCM=C:\SB16
                          SET SOUND=C:\SB16
                          CD \SB16
                          DIAGNOSE /S
                          CTCM /S
                          MIXERSET /P

                          I have tested this with several games and have had no issues.

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                            #28
                            I thought this was A kit you get this one already assembled that's
                            not fun and way to much money for me..
                            Never Bin or sell your old computer's you will regret it!!
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