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    #76
    All of this said on eBay pricing, it's always worth throwing in a generic search for something like 'old computer' to see what comes up.

    The best score I've had in recent years was a Dell P166 - not just the base unit, but it was a complete matched system with the original 15" CRT (a pretty good monitor actually), branded keyboard, mouse and speakers. Also thrown in was all the original software, a couple of still sealed boxes of 3.5" disks (90's manufactured ones which actually work too), a Lexmark printer with a few still sealed cartridges, and a copy of Cubase and a MIDI adaptor cable for the soundcard (was being used as a music workstation). Only way it could have been any better is if it was boxed. The price...£10! Because it was A) collect only and B) listed as 'random PC'.

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      #77
      Everyone's talking about old puters. What about a water pump for a 1998 Grand Prix. Last 1 (2 sold), 999$:

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Wate...EAAOSw7xZdgMdS

      I'm glad I spotted 1 for 28$ before I saw that listing.

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        #78
        Originally posted by pinkdonut666 View Post
        Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and stuff is worth what people are willing to pay. I owe my spark and Interest in this Hobby to youtubers as otherwise i would have had zero exposure to vintage PCs. Ebay has been the way I've been able to easily obtain a large portion of my collection up here in Kanukistan, and I've just learned to deal with the shipping fees and high prices. (You gotta pay to play sometimes) it might not be worth $500 to you, but it might be to me
        Quite a nice little toy room you have there young man... that's what my working environment used to look like back in my younger days!! haha

        -Alex

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          #79
          Originally posted by tipc View Post
          Everyone's talking about old puters. What about a water pump for a 1998 Grand Prix. Last 1 (2 sold), 999$:

          https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Wate...EAAOSw7xZdgMdS

          I'm glad I spotted 1 for 28$ before I saw that listing.
          thats gotta be money laundering there is not a chance anyone would pay more than the value of the car for the water pump XD

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            #80
            Maybe they have a 1998 Grand Prix GTP they want running and it might be a collectors item down the road (Pontiac is the new Amiga).
            What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
            Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
            Boxed apps and games for the above systems
            Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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              #81
              Originally posted by tipc View Post
              Everyone's talking about old puters. What about a water pump for a 1998 Grand Prix. Last 1 (2 sold), 999$:

              https://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Wate...EAAOSw7xZdgMdS

              I'm glad I spotted 1 for 28$ before I saw that listing.
              I can still find plenty of parts for my snow blower, lawn tractor, and washer/dryer on ebay cheaper than amazon. For now....

              But here is my 2 cents on the current crisis. Where did the economy/budget cars go? Did everyone forget the Geo/Chevrolet Metro? it was a 9 thousand dollar car on a .999L 3 cyl engine. An AMAZING commuter car that got better gas mileage than most hybrids (Hybrids are a FARCE!). What happened to entry level commuter cars? They dont exist. Sure the Metro was the far side of that spectrum, but say Toyota; They used to sell the Tercel, than the Corolla, than the Camry. Where did the Tercel go? Honda had the CRX, than the Civic, than the accrord/prelude. Yeah they re-released the CRX, but its more of an accord at this point. The original CRV had MANUAL brakes, and MANUAL steering. Where are the entry level cars!? I don't own an SUV nor will I ever buy one!!!!

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                #82
                Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
                Where did the economy/budget cars go?
                Most manufacturers abandoned them because they weren't profitable (there wasn't demand). Ford went even farther, they discontinued everything that wasn't an SUV or the Mustang. The cheapest new car you can buy in the USA is currently the Chevrolet Spark @ $14K but I wouldn't get in that unless I had a death wish. There are still entry level sedans, but "entry level" in 2021 means roughly $20k.

                Getting back on topic... regarding ebay pricing: While I'm sure a few auctions are money laundering, and others are special cases (like propmasters who have a 50K budget for "make this look like the 1980s" and don't care about cost), most people don't want to accept that there are very reasonable and understandable explanations for higher prices on vintage computers, vintage software/games, etc: Buyers are willing to pay that much. It really is that simple. People interested in the hobby are usually in a computer field, which pays pretty well these days. So someone in their early 30s who really, REALLY wants to revisit Windows 98 games on a 400 MHz Celeron with a 3DFX card will have no trouble forking over $400-$500 of disposable income (especially when they forked over $600 or more for the cell phone in their pocket).

                The only area of this hobby that concerns me are the rising prices of computer games. Some go into the thousands, and these numbers are justified by the quality of the item, still in factory shrinkwrap... but some people have discovered that you can re-wrap items and the inexperienced collector won't/can't tell the difference. It's not exactly counterfeiting, but it is definitely unscrupulous, which is why my next youtube video is about this very subject.
                Offering a bounty for:
                - A working Sanyo MBC-775 or Logabax 1600
                - Music Construction Set, IBM Music Feature edition (has red sticker on front stating IBM Music Feature)

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
                  I can still find plenty of parts for my snow blower, lawn tractor, and washer/dryer on ebay cheaper than amazon. For now....

                  But here is my 2 cents on the current crisis. Where did the economy/budget cars go? Did everyone forget the Geo/Chevrolet Metro? it was a 9 thousand dollar car on a .999L 3 cyl engine. An AMAZING commuter car that got better gas mileage than most hybrids (Hybrids are a FARCE!). What happened to entry level commuter cars? They dont exist. Sure the Metro was the far side of that spectrum, but say Toyota; They used to sell the Tercel, than the Corolla, than the Camry. Where did the Tercel go? Honda had the CRX, than the Civic, than the accrord/prelude. Yeah they re-released the CRX, but its more of an accord at this point. The original CRV had MANUAL brakes, and MANUAL steering. Where are the entry level cars!? I don't own an SUV nor will I ever buy one!!!!
                  About a year and a half ago I bought my wife a Mazda CX-9. I looked at everything in my price range and it came out on top. What you will notice when shopping is it will be difficult to find a new vehicle with manual anything. They all have P/S, P/B. P/Seats, A/C, Automatic Trans, Basic Stereo, etc. It's real hard if not impossible to find a standard shift unless it's a sports car or truck. So, these are the standards these days and they just bumped up the bottom line. It would be too expensive to option, say the Corolla, to have manual roll-up windows. There may be exceptions to this but it's going to be some oddball make and not in the mainstream.
                  Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by VERAULT View Post
                    I can still find plenty of parts for my snow blower, lawn tractor, and washer/dryer on ebay cheaper than amazon. For now....

                    But here is my 2 cents on the current crisis. Where did the economy/budget cars go? Did everyone forget the Geo/Chevrolet Metro? it was a 9 thousand dollar car on a .999L 3 cyl engine. An AMAZING commuter car that got better gas mileage than most hybrids (Hybrids are a FARCE!). What happened to entry level commuter cars? They dont exist. Sure the Metro was the far side of that spectrum, but say Toyota; They used to sell the Tercel, than the Corolla, than the Camry. Where did the Tercel go? Honda had the CRX, than the Civic, than the accrord/prelude. Yeah they re-released the CRX, but its more of an accord at this point. The original CRV had MANUAL brakes, and MANUAL steering. Where are the entry level cars!? I don't own an SUV nor will I ever buy one!!!!
                    I think you're missing the point entirely. There are hundreds of items that have a huge, seemingly arbitrary markup. I can't pretend to fathom the reason/s. Someone suggested money laundering. As good an explanation as any. Like Al Queda embedding messages in pornose.

                    I haven't sold anything in a while. eBay sent me notices stating my rating has fallen below standards. I think as a result there are certain promotions I'm not offered anymore, which sucks. Anyway do sellers arbitrarily markup their items to make ebay think more highly of them?

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by tipc View Post
                      I think you're missing the point entirely. There are hundreds of items that have a huge, seemingly arbitrary markup. I can't pretend to fathom the reason/s. Someone suggested money laundering. As good an explanation as any. Like Al Queda embedding messages in pornose.

                      I haven't sold anything in a while. eBay sent me notices stating my rating has fallen below standards. I think as a result there are certain promotions I'm not offered anymore, which sucks. Anyway do sellers arbitrarily markup their items to make ebay think more highly of them?
                      I just sold a few items on Ebay and I set the price at what I thought I could get at the time. I not the benevolent good guy on Ebay. Most of the time I'll put it up on the forum here for a few and offer some sort of a deal, then if no takers, it's off to Ebay for whatever I can get.
                      Surely not everyone was Kung-fu fighting

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                        #86
                        HA! Over $1k with shipping. No monitor - though the library has a little worth

                        https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-AT-5...orig_cvip=true

                        Maybe a good time for some of ya OG to look at parting out some of that hoard of yours - people have stock returns money!

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Trixter View Post
                          but some people have discovered that you can re-wrap items and the inexperienced collector won't/can't tell the difference. It's not exactly counterfeiting, but it is definitely unscrupulous, which is why my next youtube video is about this very subject.
                          Some of this even happened “back in the day” but I don’t think those examples were being unscrupulous, in certain instances.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Trixter View Post
                            The only area of this hobby that concerns me are the rising prices of computer games. Some go into the thousands, and these numbers are justified by the quality of the item, still in factory shrinkwrap... but some people have discovered that you can re-wrap items and the inexperienced collector won't/can't tell the difference. It's not exactly counterfeiting, but it is definitely unscrupulous, which is why my next youtube video is about this very subject.
                            How can anyone buy (with the intent to keep shrink-wrapped) or sell shrink-wrapped products on eBay, especially at a premium? As the buyer, if you don't open it up to inspect it, it may contain a brick. As the seller, if you don't open it up and inspect it before you sell it, the buyer can claim it contained a brick and you have no photographic evidence you had the contents.

                            Also, is it really unscrupulous to sell something as shrink-wrapped without claiming it was never-opened? If is shrink-wrapped, but not claimed as never-opened, the buyer is the one that makes the assumption it was never-opened. Because of the verification problem, wouldn't everything have to be opened, inspected, and re-wrapped anyway?

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                              #89
                              Well I for 1 would be terribly pissed if someone sells something as new, and according to eBay new means unopened, never handled, and upon getting it finding out it isn't new. I once bought a motherboard and resold it without ever opening it. It is what it is. New is new, we shouldn't worry about the small percentage of time when someone tries to get over on a seller or buyer. It absolutely burns me to no end when sellers advertises pulls or A grade items as new when there isn't even packaging involved. The one exception is bulk packed items. The item is only as new as it was when it left the factory.

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                                #90
                                Nostalgia can be a pretty powerful thing.

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