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Tandy printer differences, 130 vs. 130A vs. 133, and how to connect to modern PC

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I've got two Tandy DMP printers and a lot of tractor-fed paper I'm interested in using.

One is a DMP130A, and I can only find a manual for DMP130.

The other is a DMP133.

I've had no problems using them with a Tandy 1000 on my desk, but I was hoping to use a switchbox and also connect to a more modern LPT port; any advice on the best way to do that? Is anyone selling printer adapters for standard IBM LPT port -> tandy card-edge printers?
 
I don't think any Tandy printers after the truly ancient Line Printer IV-era stuff actually had a card edge on the printer end? All the newer ones have a mostly standard Centronics 36 pin connector at the printer end.

So far as that goes I have this vague recollection that there was some "thing" that was slightly odd about the Tandy printers' connectors that required a small change to a standard PC 25-pin-to-Centronics printer cable; Tandy sold an appropriate cable after 1984 or so because the Tandy 1200, 3000, etc (all the non-Tandy 1000 models) had standard PC parallel ports. It was some obscure difference between chassis and signal ground or something? Don't remember off the top of my head.
 
Yeah I remember seeing a pinout at some point. I did find a 130 and 130a manual on tvdogs site so that should answer any questions there...
 
The early Tandy printers were closer to the original Centronics standard, and apparently it was IBM which changed things with the PC which made them incompatible:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180715...entronics.html

Although it's not immediately obvious (to me) what the pin mapping should be to connect an old Tandy (Centronics compatible) printer to an IBM PC.
 
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I also found this document while looking for accelerator cards for the trs-80 computers and found it may contain some information you may also need.

About incompatibilites with Tandy printers interface

We hear all kinds of horror stories about Tandy printers
not working with generic IBM/Epson cables. The problem is that
the Tandy version of the Centronics printer port and the IBM
version are not wired identically. Some of the signals are on
different pins, so each printer needs its own cable. My
experience from a few months back should explain this.

I bought a 26-227C Tandy cable last night, and it works
fine with the Sharp Laptop and the DMP132. The IBM Parallel
generic cable I had bought from Egghead didn't work. So I got
out the continuity tester and went at it. Some people have
suggested mismatched capacitance (give me a break!) and other
magic reasons for the problem, but the plain fact is that the
Tandy and IBM/Epson ports are wired differently, and need
different cables as follows:

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Look at pins 13, 14, and 16, from the 25 pin side, and
you'll find the culprits. These three signals go to different
places in the 36 pin connector. All of the signals that are
tied together in the IBM cable are grounds, and the grounds in
the Tandy cable are separate, so that grounding takes place
after the cable is hooked up. But pin 33 in the Tandy printers
is the initialize printer signal, and with the IBM cable, it's
hooked to ground, and knocks the printer off line.

Chances are that swapping pins 31 and 33 (at the printer
end of the cable), plus disconnecting pin 14 will probably do
the job. If necessary, also swap pins 13 & 18. It's probably
less bother just to buy a Tandy cable.

So, it would seem that any printer cable is peculiar to
its printer, and should be treated as a matched set. By the
way, this newest Tandy cable has thumb screws too.
 
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