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    #46
    where can I download the images from ?

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      #47
      Originally posted by kokoboi View Post
      where can I download the images from ?
      As stated elsewhere in the thread:

      http://filedump.glitchwrks.com/softw...tage/ibm/pcix/
      Check out The Glitch Works | My Retro Projects | Vintage Computer Services | Glitch Works Tindie Store -- Vintage Computer Kits and More

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        #48
        Originally posted by Swigs View Post
        Here are the PX/IX hardware requirements taken from an IBM booth handout at the UNIX Systems EXPO/84
        Thanks for posting that info , at least now I know what hardware it will work on.

        Still unsure if it looks for the IBM basic roms or not or maybe the original discs have errors.

        Any body have any more docs on this? Or maybe a list of the commands for SYS 3 ?

        I have not played around any with this in months but I'd like to see it work.
        Last edited by Klee; September 13, 2011, 07:41 AM.

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          #49
          Bumping an old thread.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Klee View Post
            Bumping an old thread.
            PCE (http://www.hampa.ch/pce) can now run PC/IX. There's a preconfigured environment in the download section, including the disk images from this thread. I have successfully used the emulated PC/IX to recompile MINIX 1.1.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Klee View Post
              Does anybody have any docs on this OS ? I cannot find any manuals at all.
              I think you would be interested on post # 19 of this very thread, where forum member cas194 says:

              I was involved with PC/IX since its inception and I have a complete set of PC/IX manuals, 'Second Edition', in pristine condition:

              o System Manager's Guide
              o Programmer's Guide
              o Text Processing Guide
              o User's Manual (aka 'The Fat Book')

              Interested?

              Chris.

              p.s. As this forum thread appears inactive, I'll leave an email address so that I don't have to keep checking: cas194@gmail.com

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                #52
                Originally posted by tenox View Post
                I have SCO Xenix for 8086 XT including development kit etc.
                The Development Kit for Xenix (for the IBM PC) is a very sought after item, even if it is just for the XT/8086 version and not for the 386 version.

                May I have an "evaluation copy", please?

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by hampa View Post
                  PCE (http://www.hampa.ch/pce) can now run PC/IX. There's a preconfigured environment in the download section, including the disk images from this thread. I have successfully used the emulated PC/IX to recompile MINIX 1.1.
                  Neat! PCE compiled easily under FreeBSD, and just now I have booted PC/IX 1.0. Fun times.
                  Torfinn

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                    #54
                    As the IBM PC/IX development manager, I congratulate you! It brings back a lot of fond memories to hear that PC/IX is alive and well after some 28+ years. Just wish I could see it running. Now if only someone could get VM/IX or better yet TSS/370 running again.

                    Paul Swigert

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                      #55
                      Paul,

                      As TSS/370 was a PRPQ so licenced we are not going to see it live any time soon. I guess that TSS/360 may yet be resurrected but I think it needs 360/67 emulation and thats not available any where.

                      Wasn't VM/IX also licenced code? If we could get a copy of that that would be fun.....

                      Dave
                      p.s. MTS has just been made available for download...
                      Dave
                      G4UGM

                      Looking for Analog Computers, Drum Plotters, and Graphics Terminals.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by g4ugm View Post
                        I guess that TSS/360 may yet be resurrected but I think it needs 360/67 emulation and thats not available any where.
                        So Hercules isn't going to cut it?
                        (I'm not very familiar with mainframes, so be kind if this is a question with a very obvious answer)
                        Torfinn

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                          #57
                          No thats fine. The Hercules FAQ

                          http://www.hercules-390.org/hercfaq.html#1.02

                          says:-

                          (Note: Not all 370 and 390 features have been implemented in Hercules. See the list of particulars later in this document. Also, certain non-standard models, 360/20s, and the 360/67 virtual memory mode are not emulated.)

                          but if we had a stable TSS then tweaking Hercules probably would take a few days effort..
                          Dave
                          G4UGM

                          Looking for Analog Computers, Drum Plotters, and Graphics Terminals.

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                            #58
                            VERY interesting!!! And good work!!

                            I have tried to install PC/IX on a Compaq Deskpro 8086 and a clone 8088 and have went through the installer to install it to the hard drive but it errors out when I try to boot off the hard drive.

                            What is hardware is needed to boot PC/IX from the hard drive?

                            I do not have an IBM pc to play with only clones and both have failed to boot after the install. Does it have to have the IBM PC rom chips?

                            EDIT: I just started the emulator and removed the ibm basic rom from the rom folder and it still booted into PC/IX so it does not need the rom chips to boot.

                            Looks like i'm gonna make some more floppys and try one more time!!LOL


                            Originally posted by hampa View Post
                            PCE (http://www.hampa.ch/pce) can now run PC/IX. There's a preconfigured environment in the download section, including the disk images from this thread. I have successfully used the emulated PC/IX to recompile MINIX 1.1.
                            Last edited by Klee; January 28, 2012, 03:14 PM.

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                              #59
                              Hi Dave,

                              It turns out that both the source code and object modules for TSS/370 can be found here: http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/

                              TSS Manuals may be found here: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/tss/

                              And a S/370 emulator may be found here: http://www.hercules-390.org/

                              I don't know of anywhere VM/IX code may be found.

                              I know (knew) TSS pretty well and would love to work with anyone interested in getting it running again.

                              Paul S

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                                #60
                                Did not work but it did not error out at the "can't find UNIX" error but just froze after it said "booting UNIX "......I guess thats an improvement. LOL

                                I might try an older MFM controller and low level format the drive to it and try again. Now I'm thinking it might have issues with the newer, made in 1989, controller card.


                                Originally posted by Klee View Post
                                VERY interesting!!! And good work!!

                                I have tried to install PC/IX on a Compaq Deskpro 8086 and a clone 8088 and have went through the installer to install it to the hard drive but it errors out when I try to boot off the hard drive.

                                What is hardware is needed to boot PC/IX from the hard drive?

                                I do not have an IBM pc to play with only clones and both have failed to boot after the install. Does it have to have the IBM PC rom chips?

                                EDIT: I just started the emulator and removed the ibm basic rom from the rom folder and it still booted into PC/IX so it does not need the rom chips to boot.

                                Looks like i'm gonna make some more floppys and try one more time!!LOL

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