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AT&T UNIX PC enthusiasts out there?

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    AT&T UNIX PC enthusiasts out there?

    The AT&T UNIX PC aka PC 7300 aka 3b1 is one of my favorite UNIX machines. Any other fans/owners out there?

    Last year I got into playing around with one virtually with Phil Pemberton's FreeBee emulator (https://github.com/philpem/freebee). And then I added some enhancements along the way which was a lot of fun learning more about the details of the hardware. Well just recently firebirdta84 hooked me up with some real deal hardware which has been awesome! AJ helped setup David Gesswein's MFM emulator in the machine to get me up and running. There's no floppy so I'm going to see if I can get a gotek working with it, who knows! The UNIX PC FAQ does say that a 720k 3.5" floppy can be supported, but not a 1.44" for some reason. But hoping to just emulate the standard 400k 3b1 floppy.

    I am also lacking a 3b1 mouse so I've been working on a ps2 mouse to 3b1 converter which I've got prototyped. Now trying to figure out a proper hardware design for the converter. That said, does anyone else have the need for a ps2 mouse or keyboard converter for their 3b1? I could probably add keyboard support too if anyone was interested. I know AJ was interested in a mouse converter.

    Anyway, if you have any other fun anecdotes about the AT&T UNIX PC, please share!

    #2
    We have a 3b1 and 7300 that were my wife's when they were a cheap way to get a UNIX computer. Its been to VCF east a couple times. Last was http://www.pdp8online.com/shows/vcfe16/vcfe16.shtml. I have an image I made for VCF museum if you want to play with it. http://www.pdp8online.com/3b1/demos.shtml. Freebee also has an image.

    My wife's porting of dungeon may be a fun anecdote. http://www.pdp8online.com/shows/vcfe16/3b1-zork.shtml

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      #3
      Haha, I just happened to come across that picture yesterday of your wife with the 3b1 at VCF East -- I thought that was really cool. I'm in fact using your VCF image right now on your MFM emulator (that AJ built), and I also use that image with FreeBee! Thanks so much for putting it together. It's come in handy for me, and also is a great resource for anyone who wants to try out FreeBee. When I first played around with FreeBee, you needed to do the full OS install and there is an emulator glitch where the install process can hang when it gets to "setting up screen".

      I'll have to check out that story of the dungeon port.

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        #4
        I have three, so you could say I'm in to them. Along the way I accumulated an expansion memory board, PC emulation board (8086), expansion chassis, tape drive and one serious unicorn: the ethernet adapter. Very cool machines with classic styling.

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          #5
          Originally posted by shirsch View Post
          Along the way I accumulated an expansion memory board, PC emulation board (8086), expansion chassis, tape drive and one serious unicorn: the ethernet adapter. Very cool machines with classic styling.
          Ahh yes, the fabled Ethernet card! I would love to get my hands on one of them some day. I hear the TCP/IP stack isn't great but it's gotta be better than not having one. I have heard of a number of people with the DOS card, I wouldn't have guessed that would have been as popular as it seems it may have been. And the expansion chassis, wow -- I have read of it but never saw one or even a pic of one. It's impressive they even made such a thing. I would have guessed 3 slots would have been sufficient. I hope to get a RAM card some day too, but I've got 1MB for now.

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            #6
            Today I used the serial port and a null modem cable to xmodem (“umodem -rb”) over a file, fortunately worked without an issue. That file was an interesting one which was the vidpal emulator. It’s a driver that lets you write directly to VRAM. Easy to compile and install and seemed to work. I’m interested in being able to write to VRAM as it’s straightforward and I don’t have to learn the “proper” way you’d otherwise do it. There’s overhead for sure but don’t think I want to mess with a hardware workaround at this point like the original Vidpal mod. Anyway if you are interested the vidpal emulator is here: http://www.unixpc.org/ftp.funet.fi/p...me1/vidpal-em/

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