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Welcome back!

If you're seeing this then welcome to the NEW Vintage Computer Forums.

The forums have been updated to the latest version of the software which means new features and some changes to old ones.

Please don't be alarmed. Change is good!
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Forum etiquette

Our mission ...

This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

This forum has been around in this format for over 15 years. These rules and guidelines help us maintain a healthy and active community, and we moderate the forum to keep things on track. Please familiarize yourself with these rules and guidelines.


Remain civil and respectful

There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.


Stay close to the original topic being discussed
  • If you are starting a new thread choose a reasonable sub-forum to start your thread. (If you choose incorrectly don't worry, we can fix that.)
  • If you are responding to a thread, stay on topic - the original poster was trying to achieve something. You can always start a new thread instead of potentially "hijacking" an existing thread.



Contribute something meaningful

To put things in engineering terms, we value a high signal to noise ratio. Coming here should not be a waste of time.
  • This is not a chat room. If you are taking less than 30 seconds to make a post then you are probably doing something wrong. A post should be on topic, clear, and contribute something meaningful to the discussion. If people read your posts and feel that their time as been wasted, they will stop reading your posts. Worse yet, they will stop visiting and we'll lose their experience and contributions.
  • Do not bump threads.
  • Do not "necro-post" unless you are following up to a specific person on a specific thread. And even then, that person may have moved on. Just start a new thread for your related topic.
  • Use the Private Message system for posts that are targeted at a specific person.


"PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

Here are some obvious examples of when you should not reply to a thread and use the PM system instead:
  • "PM Sent!": Do not tell the rest of us that you sent a PM ... the forum software will tell the other person that they have a PM waiting.
  • "How much is shipping to ....": This is a very specific and directed question that is not of interest to anybody else.


Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.


Reporting problematic posts

If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.

If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.


New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.


Other suggestions
  • Use Google, books, or other definitive sources. There is a lot of information out there.
  • Don't make people guess at what you are trying to say; we are not mind readers. Be clear and concise.
  • Spelling and grammar are not rated, but they do make a post easier to read.
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Genres

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Early Apple (I, ][, ///, etc.)
Discussions about 8 bit Apple computers and clones
Topics: 2,050 Posts: 16,949
2,050 16,949
Later Apple (68000+ based machines - Mac, Lisa, etc.)
Later Apple machines from the Lisa to the Mac and beyond, including clones.
Topics: 1,308 Posts: 11,736
Last Post: MAC iicx
1,308 11,736
Gary C
by Gary C
Atari
Atari discussions
Topics: 342 Posts: 2,934
342 2,934
Commodore
From the Pet to the Amiga
Topics: 2,799 Posts: 34,680
2,799 34,680
DEC
Digital Equipment Corporation items of interest
Topics: 2,428 Posts: 30,904
Last Post: PDP11/20 restoring
2,428 30,904
PCs and Clones
Older PC architectures from IBM and others - 8088 to 286 only!
Topics: 7,410 Posts: 93,465
7,410 93,465
Later PCs
386 and 486 class systems only please.
Topics: 2,609 Posts: 29,338
2,609 29,338
Pentium (First generation)
For discussion of collecting newer systems. Many of us wouldn't consider these "vintage", but some of us feel you should collect them before they're all recycled!
Topics: 700 Posts: 8,137
700 8,137
S-100
S-100 Systems discussions
Topics: 1,222 Posts: 12,008
1,222 12,008
Hugo Holden
CP/M and MP/M
Discuss these venerable old operating systems and the machines that run them
Topics: 1,460 Posts: 16,601
1,460 16,601
Unix/Xenix/Linux Workstations
Unix family discussions
Topics: 425 Posts: 4,220
425 4,220
Tandy/Radio Shack
Discussions about the Tandy/TRS-80 line of computers from the Model I on up.
Topics: 3,703 Posts: 36,627
3,703 36,627
Handhelds/Portables
From luggables to palmtops, a place to discuss machines you can take with you.
Topics: 896 Posts: 6,168
896 6,168
Pre-Altair Microcomputers
For machines such as the Kenbak, Macral N, MSI CPS-1, MCM/70, RCA COSMAC MicroKit, Mark-8, Scelbi and other microcomputers, production or homebrew, that pre-date the original Altair 8800.
Topics: 97 Posts: 979
97 979
Texas Instruments
For discussions of TI and related gear.
Topics: 267 Posts: 2,686
267 2,686
chicagotiug
Minis and Mainframes
For larger machines not covered in other topic areas.
Topics: 401 Posts: 3,577
401 3,577
ScutBoy
by ScutBoy
Grid Systems
Grid Systems Corp systems.
Topics: 33 Posts: 191
Last Post: GRiD 1755?
33 191
Paralel
by Paralel
Other
For machines that don't have a section of their own. . . yet.
Topics: 2,054 Posts: 19,864
2,054 19,864
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