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    A flake to avoid on ebay

    Just finished an agonizing transaction with maxxdoo.

    Auction finished on 23 Oct and paid a day later.

    Waited a week, nothing.

    One more week. Still nothing. Sent email asking for shipping info. No response.

    2 days later. Sent another email requesting shipping info. Nada. Sent another email via Outlook requesting date/time read. Nothing!

    Couple of more emails just to see if he was having a bad couple of weeks. ZIP!

    Finally started a transaction dispute and got paypal involved. User finally went to the post office and mailed item on 7 Nov. Received 9 Nov.

    Left neutral response because the item was good, but his handling of the transaction was pitiful.

    Received retaliatory negative feedback from this guy! WTF??????????????

    So, if you can, avoid this guy like the plague!!!

    Curtis

    p.s. Hey Erik, maybe we should have a forum for deadbeat ebay'ers since this is becoming the primary method for collectors to obtain stuff! Hopefully, I won't be in it...
    Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read! Groucho Marx

    Curtis McCain

    http://pages.suddenlink.net/curtismc/

    #2
    Originally posted by curtis View Post
    p.s. Hey Erik, maybe we should have a forum for deadbeat ebay'ers since this is becoming the primary method for collectors to obtain stuff! Hopefully, I won't be in it...
    I'm not sure a dedicated forum is needed, but adding to this thread would work - for now, at least.

    Anyone else know of any deadbeats?

    Please only post about transactions that you were directly involved in and only post the facts. No need to get personal or to risk libel.
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      #3
      Let's not turn this into a rant thread. If you have somebody specific that you'd like to point out, do so in a clearly written an non-libelous paragraph. Otherwise, let's not all chip on how bad buyers/sellers on eBay can be.

      Edit:

      Since this thread is now sticky and it will persist, to keep it readable I'm going to prune anything that looks like ranting. Feel free to post your factual story about eBay morons, but don't editorialize too much.
      Last edited by mbbrutman; November 11, 2006, 07:26 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by curtis View Post
        Picked one of these up on ebay. Yes, maxxdoo FINALLY sent it after threatening action.

        Anyway, installed it in my Amiga 500 and hooked up a VGA monitor. No joy.

        I'm assuming I need some driver software to enable this. Yes/No?

        Can someone help me out here? I don't have an Amiga hooked up to the internet, so probably the best thing would be snail mail. I'm in Burleson, Tx and would be willing to cover costs.

        OS is Workbench 1.3 Motherboard rev is 6A.

        Curtis
        You too eh? I joined here just to share my expeience with you.

        I bought mine off maxdoo on Oct 1, 2006. I had nothing as of the end of Oct.

        I had to actually start the claims process on PayPal before he even shipped the thing on Nov 6, 2006.

        Mine just arrived an hour ago. Now I'm gung-ho to get home and try this thing. My precious 1084s blew up two days after I hooked my A500 back up in Sept. It was either spend the money on this thing or get the monitor fixed.

        It will be nice to use the A500 on a VGA monitor. I also got lucky in that a friend of mine just gave me his old PC speakers so I have sound taken care of too.

        Amiga Forever!!! lol.....

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          #5
          Just ran a check to see if mr. maxxdoo was doing anything on ebay and discovered he's no longer a registered user.

          Wonder if it was his idea to give it up or if he was "invited" off by ebay???

          Curtis
          Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read! Groucho Marx

          Curtis McCain

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            #6
            Here's another ebay'er that doesn't seem to have a clue.

            korodit

            I don't think he's deliberately bad, but he's terribly uninformed.

            Bid on an auction for an Amiga 500+. Won it and paid what was claimed was the total plus shipping. 3-4 days later he messages me saying he hasn't gotten my payment. Check paypal, seems he's listed a different email address. Cancel that payment and am about to send a new payment to the email he says is correct when I get ANOTHER email saying shipping is going to be $70 as opposed to $24 as posted on the auction.

            Grumble...

            Paid it.

            Wait...

            Wait...

            Another email to him as THIS payment is ALSO unclaimed! He finally claims the payment.

            Today I receive ANOTHER email from him stating shipping is now going to be $90! He does offer to refund my payment and basically cancel out the whole transaction.

            All through the email swaps he's claiming he didn't have any plans of selling it internationally, but only in his country of Hungary.

            With my final email agreeing to cancel the transaction, I explain to him to change his preferences AND his paypal account!

            This fellow is clueless and for the immediate future, don't get involved with him!
            Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read! Groucho Marx

            Curtis McCain

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              #7
              I am often a "foreign" buyer or seller. Local practices can be different - eg US sellers who insist on $50+ courier delivery for a tiny, non-fragile, non-urgent item. Are they getting kickbacks? In some countries, the post office rates may be unpredictable as well, if the local clerk is in a position to demand a "premium" to accept the item and process it...

              CAVEAT EMPTOR is always relevant.

              Rick

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                #8
                Originally posted by RickNel View Post
                I am often a "foreign" buyer or seller. Local practices can be different - eg US sellers who insist on $50+ courier delivery for a tiny, non-fragile, non-urgent item. Are they getting kickbacks? In some countries, the post office rates may be unpredictable as well, if the local clerk is in a position to demand a "premium" to accept the item and process it...

                CAVEAT EMPTOR is always relevant.

                Rick
                I used to ship internationally all the time, but no more.
                I 've been burned twice in the past year, with the last one being someone in the UK who purchased an item which I mailed the next day via USPS First Class Mail International Package.
                The buyer contacts me after 28 days saying they haven't received it, and they want a refund.
                I check with the post office, and there's no tracking for items in the UK via the way I sent it.
                I refund the buyer's purchase price plus the shipping, and then three weeks later the package comes back to me with a sticker on it saying there was 11 pounds duty on it, and it was "not called for".
                Essentially, the guy decided he didn't wat to pay the duty his country was going to charge, so I ended up getting screwed out of the cost of international shipping.

                How can a seller protect himself when there's no record of delivery?
                If you have something shipped to Australia, how can the seller prove it ever got there if there's no signature required?
                And you can only get the signature with the premium services.

                For me it's now only USPS Global Express Mail or UPS/FedEx for international shipping (IE: something that gets me a signature that the thing has been delivered or delivery was attempted).
                One bad apple spoiled the lot.

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                  #9
                  Ok, it's official, korodit is a thief!

                  After a couple of weeks and no response or refund, I've had to file a complaint on him. He hasn't responded to the complaint as of today and I'll probably have to escalate on 2 Feb.
                  Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read! Groucho Marx

                  Curtis McCain

                  http://pages.suddenlink.net/curtismc/

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                    #10
                    Well after opening cases in both ebay and paypal, then escalating to claim it appears the jerk has finally issued a refund.

                    However, the refund is pending getting the money from his bank account.

                    To quote the ever-wise Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
                    Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read! Groucho Marx

                    Curtis McCain

                    http://pages.suddenlink.net/curtismc/

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                      #11
                      Pay using a credit card (Paypal), they will just credit you and go after the seller. The only time I use cash is when I have some in my Paypal account or the item is just a few dollars.
                      What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                      Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                      Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                      Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                        #12
                        Got another deadbeat.

                        customsg

                        Sold him/she/it an Amiga software package for a whopping 99 cents! Never paid. Opened a case about a month ago with ebay. Of course, all they did was try to contact the loser.

                        Totally not worth the trouble.
                        Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read! Groucho Marx

                        Curtis McCain

                        http://pages.suddenlink.net/curtismc/

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by curtis View Post
                          Got another deadbeat.

                          customsg

                          Sold him/she/it an Amiga software package for a whopping 99 cents! Never paid. Opened a case about a month ago with ebay. Of course, all they did was try to contact the loser.

                          Totally not worth the trouble.
                          If the buyer isn't responding, you can escalate the case to eBay staff, and they'll refund your listing fee and close the case.

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                            #14
                            The only problems i've had with ebay/paypal are as a seller. Buyer protection is quite good with paypal, but as a seller, you are truly at the mercy of the buyer. They can always say they didn't receive the item, or that it wasn't as described, and paypal will always side with them.

                            Sure there are some bad ebay sellers, but the vast majority of issues have to come from buyers who are trying to bilk the system in order to get goods for free or for as little as possible.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mojorific View Post
                              The only problems i've had with ebay/paypal are as a seller. Buyer protection is quite good with paypal, but as a seller, you are truly at the mercy of the buyer. They can always say they didn't receive the item, or that it wasn't as described, and paypal will always side with them.

                              Sure there are some bad ebay sellers, but the vast majority of issues have to come from buyers who are trying to bilk the system in order to get goods for free or for as little as possible.
                              I'm hearing that more and more. I've even heard one guy say that Ebay/Paypal will refund the buyer's money and the buyer is under no obligation to send the item back! I keep hoping that's not really true. As an occasional seller, that makes me really nervous!
                              "Manning the earliest spacecraft, flying an aeroplane, with only one propeller to keep you in the sky. Can you imagine that?" -Jean-Luc Picard

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