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    Last call....moving out of our shop

    I hate to do it, but soon we're moving from our shop. I have many mixed pieces and whole computers left, even some old t i and g e servers (2 each dated 79 & 80) some old compaq 386 portables (laptops?) A lot of older memory (printer, apple 386, and 486) I means pounds of it! It is mostly untested but I do have a simmcheck that I might could learn to use? open to all reasonable offers. If you want to call to see i If I have something please do so but understand I am near unknowledgable about the older stuff.
    But that being said Call 770.899.8936 up till 10 p.m. eastern time

    #2
    What's your location?
    Are you willing to ship or is this for pickup only?

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      #3
      Originally posted by jamnar View Post
      What's your location?
      Try Atlanta. Here is one of his/her listings...

      http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sys/705998852.html

      Actually, Norcross Ga.

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        #4
        I could ship but it would probably need to be a fairly quick deal with buyer making all arrangements. I'm just north Atlanta Georgia.
        By the way, that craigslisting ppost is mine. We are looking to clear out all of our parts, pieces, junk, and otherwise.
        I'll list a partial list of the brands I've seen below:

        COMMODORE 64 ETC.
        ATARI
        APPLE
        FRANKLIN
        IBM 286 ETC.
        ZIENTH DATA SYS.
        COMPAQ
        CORONA
        TANDY
        AT&T

        Printers and printer parts by the box full.
        Some brands I've seen are
        APPLE
        COMMODORE
        FRANKLIN
        MANNESMANN
        STAR
        LOTS MORE OBSCURE BRANDS.

        Monitors.
        APPLE
        COMMODORE
        ATARI
        IBM
        ETC.

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          #5
          Possible Purchase

          Would you be willing to ship to Colorado? I could pay via PayPal to make for a quick transaction?

          I am interested in any old TI-99/4A Computers
          and 486 Computers

          THank You

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            #6
            Can I post a link here...I hope

            I just found a ti 99/4a today. I have ALOT of 486 stuff left laptops in particular, two just to mention are an at&t safari(won't hold charge), and a winbook xp seem to missing hd?

            I have no idea what these things are worth....bear in mind they are untested, and I'm selling them kinda as whole parts computers and other wise. I will modify this post in just a few minutes with a photobucket link some pictures i took today. Here's the link: http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...e%20computers/
            Last edited by estame; June 9, 2008, 04:38 PM. Reason: added link to pics

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              #7
              Could I get more info on the AT&T goods? I collect AT&T stuff, could make good use of it.

              --Ryan
              Come to the dark side...we have cookies.
              Wanted: Somebody to buy alot of my stuff
              AT&T PC 6300 site

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                #8
                Sure, it a safari model 3151

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                  #9
                  feedback

                  To all who view the photos please give your feedback......is it all junk?

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                    #10
                    Hi,
                    I am interested in any collections of loose DIP style chips. Those are useful for various electronics and homebrew computing projects.

                    Also, please keep an eye out for full size 5.25" floppy drives made by Tandon. In particular, any drives of the TM-100-4 variety, especially the TM-100-4M version. You can tell by flipping the drive upside down and reading the label near the front of the drive.

                    Thanks and good luck!

                    Andrew Lynch

                    PS, if you see any Vector Graphic or NorthStar items, please PM me. Thanks!

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                      #11
                      were are you in Georgia I'm in Marietta and may can come see over the weekend may be interested in the Atari and amiga
                      what you staring at. you never seen a portable computer

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                        #12
                        What's so special about the Tandon TM-100-4/4M drives ? I checked
                        one Tandon I have it says TM-100-2A


                        Originally posted by lynchaj View Post
                        Hi,
                        I am interested in any collections of loose DIP style chips. Those are useful for various electronics and homebrew computing projects.

                        Also, please keep an eye out for full size 5.25" floppy drives made by Tandon. In particular, any drives of the TM-100-4 variety, especially the TM-100-4M version. You can tell by flipping the drive upside down and reading the label near the front of the drive.

                        Thanks and good luck!

                        Andrew Lynch

                        PS, if you see any Vector Graphic or NorthStar items, please PM me. Thanks!

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                          #13
                          Do you have any more info on the Zenith Data System? What is it, the model number, etc? I've been looking a long time for an AC Adapter for an old Zenith Laptop, Z-Sport 425S in particular. Thanks!

                          chris

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mikey99 View Post
                            What's so special about the Tandon TM-100-4/4M drives ? I checked
                            one Tandon I have it says TM-100-2A
                            Hi,
                            The Tandon TM100-4 are 96 tpi (used on Heath and WaveMate Bullet) and the TM100-4M is 100 tpi (used on Vector Graphic). Basically, I like to get some spares as they can be hard to find sometimes.

                            The TM100-2A are the default 48 tpi units commonly associated with IBM PCs, clones, NorthStar Horizons, etc. They are a good drive but common as dirt and just about as exciting. Don't throw them away but there is nothing special about them. I am sure some people here could use them though.

                            No big deal but if you come across them it would be good. Please keep me in mind if you do. Thanks!

                            Andrew Lynch

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by lynchaj View Post
                              Hi,

                              The TM100-2A are the default 48 tpi units commonly associated with IBM PCs, clones, NorthStar Horizons, etc. They are a good drive but common as dirt and just about as exciting. Don't throw them away but there is nothing special about them. I am sure some people here could use them though.

                              Andrew Lynch
                              This is true. I could use a couple of those myself.
                              The world has moved on and left me behind. Therefore I choose to retreat into the past.

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