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Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

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Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.

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New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.

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HUGE Box Of JUNK For Sale

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    HUGE Box Of JUNK For Sale

    Well, I'm cleaning out my ham shack (KG8RJ), finally, and need to get rid of this stuff. I'll try to describe some of it, and be sure to click on the pics on the web page to see bigger versions. All of this stuff was pulled from working systems, but, now, who knows, I have tried some of the cards, and they are still fine, everything *should* be good (as described), but there's no guarantee on any of it... all of this is sold strictly AS IS. So, please understand that. Also, I will not separate this stuff out, if I wanted to take that much time, I'd just put different items on eBay

    Price.. $100.00
    which includes shipping (it's heavy, and shipping will probably be 30 or 40 dollars)
    I will ship ONLY to the lower 48 states, don't ask for anything else (I live in Huntington, WV, and if you want to pick it up, it goes for $65 dollars without shipping)

    payment by Paypal ONLY, and must be immediate
    email me at

    see it all here

    There are several NIC's, some 16 bit, some PCI. A few video cards, I/O cards, a SCSI EISA, one card full of memory chips, a digiboard multi serial port card (very expensive), a 56k modem (I believe I also have a 14.4k modem I'll throw in, and maybe some other cards as I find them). There's a scsi card with a parallel type connection, I also have the cable for this (was for a HP scanner, I believe). There's also several sticks of 70 pin sims, a couple at 16 meg I believe, and 1 32meg 168pin. And there's also a 256k cache memory stick. I have drivers for much of these, and will include what I have

    This includes 2 printer switch boxes, an 8 port hub, 2 pentium cpus with heat sinks (A 60m and a 75m I think). There's a belkin 4 port usb hub, a kensington external NIC, nice cpu fan and heatsink, a propad 6 gamepad, a touch pad, MS mouse, and two power supplies. Also not in pic are 4 3.5 inch floppy drives, and a large HP power supply for a printer or scanner, and a few other assorted things (whatever I find laying around on the floor, basically

    PCI Firewire Card (3 external, 1 internal connector)
    This is almost new, was used in my computer for a couple months with a DV camera. Includes video editing software, cable, card and box

    Model M IBM Keyboard
    This is in nice condition (made in 1993) with clicky keys and a ps-2 type connector. Needs surface cleaned, but all keys click and work well.

    This is a ECS K7SEM motherboard and 1gig Duron CPU. But there's a problem with it, it worked fine, then got extremely slow... like 8088 slow... I believe the onboard cache burned out of the Duron, but, it's just being sold as is. This includes box, original manual, and the original optional 56k modem and NIC. Bios was flashed to latest edition a few months ago. Has built in sound, video, usb ports, etc

    Big Box O' Cables
    This is a big box (the photo looks deceptive), approximately 12 inches tall, by 12x18 wide and deep. There are 6 or 7 parallel printer cables (some are Belkin), bunches of hard drive and floppy cables, a few scsi cables, 6 or 7 power cables, some cables I have no idea what they're for, a serial null modem cable (belkin), a parallel to printer box cable, phone cables, etc... just a BUNCH of cables

    email me at: