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    Pm me with a phone number, and I should be able to talk ya thru it.

    Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

    Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.



      I'll just try to get on ebay and look for's too annoying LOL


        No, really! I can have it working in 5 minutes over the phone if ya like. (It looks like a lot of trouble when you see it printed out like that, but it's really quite simple to actually do it).

        Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

        Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.


          thank you

          That sounds like a wonderful offer and very nice. I will keep working with it, and if i need your help, i will give you a holler. is there anyway I can fix the lcd screen on the zenith? there are two wires hangin out of the back of the hinge, and the other hinge was locked up and the medal hinge was stripped from the other side. I fixed the display last week so that it would work, but my nephew kept messing with it and finally it conked. i have been trying to work with it every since to get it straightened out. If you would still like the battery, it's not charged, but it's chargeable. I don't use it. I just use this one by it's power supply.


            It's kinda hard to tell about fixing it without actually seeing it, and mebbe even dis-assembling it. Best guess would be that you probably can't do it on your own tho.
            Shoot me your email address and I can point out any eBay items that look interesting. That requires a lot less hardware than browsing eBay yourself.

            Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

            Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.


              Originally posted by Terry Yager
              Intersvr is already on the Austin, in the dos directory. Just type c:\dos\intersvr and see what happens. It should pop open a little window that says:
                                This Computer          Other Computer
                                     (Server)                (Client)
              ...or something similar.

              Now all you have to do is get interlnk running on the other computer. You can try typing it "blind" if you feel brave. Just boot up the zenith and type-in as above except that the first thing you should do after loading the edit program is hit enter one or more times, then use the up arrow key to go back to the beginning of the file, then type-in the device= line. Save the file and exit as above, then reboot. After boot-up, check the Austin's screen again and notice the changes. Now it should show some new drive letters in the Other Computer collumn. It's all ready to go now. Good luck!

              HA! he's right i forgot all about interlnk/svr im so use to using a terminal emulator
              It would be easier to use intersvr/lnk because if you have a full install of
              DOS then you must have it. push comes to shove you can wire up your
              own serial cable too it's pretty simple to make a 3wire cable you can
              find instructions on google just type in "Null modem" serial cable
              good thing about serial connections they will run on pretty much any scrap
              wire you can find. i use to just clip them on to the pins for make shift connection
              If you don\'t know where you are going.. Any road will get you there.



                I have to do somethings this morning, but i plan on working on the laptops and seeing what i can do. Thank you both for your advice and help, but I think i will still be purchasing one. If either one of you have a laptop you would like to sell. I am extending the amount of money thank you again and take care. Sincerely, Samantha