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Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

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Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.

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New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.

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C-64c system. Complete system with JiffyDOS and more!!!

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    C-64c system. Complete system with JiffyDOS and more!!!

    Hello All,

    I am located in the United States. I am willing to ship internationally. Keep in mind that this is an NTSC (North American - 110v AC) system.

    Up for grabs is my absolutely beautiful Commodore 64c system.

    It is an absolutely wonderful machine, and has been very well cared for.

    We are in the process of consolidating our house for a future move (hopefully next year). Rather than pack everything away in boxes, I would like to find my computers a nice home.

    You can see many detailed pictures of the system on my website at:

    So, here are the specs:

    Most importantly: This system features CMD's JiffyDOS 6.01 fast-load enhancement in the computer and both disk drives. Talk about a bonus

    Commodore 64c (older version - not the short-board)
    Commodore 1541-II disk drives (two drives included)
    Commodore MPS-1250 Dot-Matrix printer (features built-in Commodore and Centronics interfaces)
    Commodore 1351 Mouse
    Commodore C2N Tape Drive
    Commodore 1802 Monitor
    Vinyl Dust Cover for the 64c Computer
    all related serial, video, and power cables


    A custom power supply that powers the computer and the disk drives. Nice, heavy duty power supply custom designed and built to power the computer and drives with nice clean power.

    Includes several programs on tape and disk:

    Commodore 64 Tutor
    Commodore 64 Tutorial Vol. 2
    Commodore 1351 Mouse Test / Demo disk
    Commodore 1541 Test / Demo Disk
    Commodore Easy Script 64 (Word Processor)
    Totl Text (Word Processor)
    Vanilla Pilot (Advanced Programming Language)
    Motor Mania
    and a few other misc. titles

    Includes Full Documentation:

    Commodore 64c User's Guide
    Commodore 64 Programmer's Reference Guide
    Commodore C2N Cassette Drive User's Guide
    Commodore 1802 User's Guide
    Commodore 1351 Mouse User's Guide
    Commodore MPS-1200 User's Guide (1200 / 1250 printers)
    Commodore 64 Setup Guide
    More than 32 Basic Programs for the Commodore 64 Computer
    Commodore 64: Getting the Most from it
    Commodore Easy Script 64
    BASIC Hands-On Method (Second Edition)
    BASIC Fun
    Using & Programming the Commodore 64: Including Ready to Use Programs

    This is a very complete system. It also includes full documentation. All of the titles listed above are original production tapes and disks. There are NO Pirated titles.

    I am "asking" $125 U.S. Dollars or Best Offer for the package (plus shipping costs). I am willing to work with the buyer to find the best and cheapest shipping method.

    If there are little "tweaks" that you would like to make to the package, you can look at some of the other items I have available at:

    I am quite willing to add items to the package for you. So, take a look around at the other items I have.

    You can contact me either by sending me a private message in this forum, or e-mailing me.

    I do accept Money Orders and PayPal. Personal checks might also be an option if you contact me to work out the details.

    If you would like to purchase this great machine, contact me directly at:

    mshunter "AT" <------ Remove the obvious spaces and change the "AT" to an @ symbol in the address to send me a direct e-mail.

    Note: the above address just needs the obvious spaces removed and the "AT" change to @ to send me an e-mail. I have the spaces inserted to insure
    that the mass-mailers cannot easily comb the page for advertising purposes.

    If you want a one-click method for contacting me, you can use my filtered e-mail address.

    The address is filtered, the real e-mails get forwarded from that account to my real address in the United States.

    I'll look forward to hearing from you.