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For Sale: spotted on Craigslist (continuous sightings)

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    5160 5162 5154: http://austin.craigslist.org/sys/5468987435.html

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      Apple ][ Plus: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/sys/5475848570.html
      1989 Apple Macintosh SE/30 with laser printer: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/sys/5479358566.html

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        2 x IBM Professional Graphics Controllers, boxed, tested (apparently), in Toronto

        http://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-comp...ationFlag=true

        ...$400/ea seems pricey to me, but who knows. Not like you'll ever find enough of these for a "FMV."

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          AST Advantage notebook: http://scranton.craigslist.org/sys/5542999207.html ($10)

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            http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/sys/5541968513.html

            Vintage computer items-- 5 1/4 floppy disks, 3 1/2 diskettes, Commodore 64 Computer, TRS 80 Model 1 and 2 computers, miscellaneous software, books, monitors, printers, etc. Also some fax machines and reel to reel transcribers and IBM Selectric typewriters (One is a memory typewriter).
            Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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              Originally posted by phogren View Post
              http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/sys/5541968513.html

              Vintage computer items-- 5 1/4 floppy disks, 3 1/2 diskettes, Commodore 64 Computer, TRS 80 Model 1 and 2 computers, miscellaneous software, books, monitors, printers, etc. Also some fax machines and reel to reel transcribers and IBM Selectric typewriters (One is a memory typewriter).
              I saw Inland Empire and I happen to be randomly in the IE today so I thought "heck this may be worth a look" but he guy is up in Big Bear...
              Current Wish List: 1. IBM 7531 Industrial Series PC 2. NEC MultiSync XL (JC-2001) Monitor 3. MicroSolutions UniDOS card 4. Compaq 14" VGA CRT Monitor (the one that came with the SystemPro). 5. Stacker HW CoProcessor Board MCA BUS. If you have any of the above for sale please PM me. Thank you!

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                Also in Fontana:
                Commodore 128 Computer. Comes with 1541 disk drive. Drive almost new condition.
                Comes with the Computer itself, the 1541 disk drive, and the A/V & Serial cables.
                First $15 TAKES IT ALL!!!!
                Contact Charles: (909) 642-3548 [TALK OR TEXT].
                Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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                  5150: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-29928878.html
                  5153: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-29928804.html
                  PCjr: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-29925132.html

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                    Alrighty, here's some that I found: Macintosh Plus with all the extras:https://huntsville.craigslist.org/sys/5599763435.html

                    And this one, not sure what it is: https://huntsville.craigslist.org/sys/5599683569.html
                    PC/AT Clone, Gateway Tower--My first computer, upgraded to new ATX gaming motherboard. Heathkit HERO Jr. Robot--Your friend, companion and security guard!

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                      Originally posted by ardsleytank View Post
                      Mini-micro designer
                      Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                        Ah, that's cool!

                        Found this too: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/sys/5518022884.html It's a TRS-80 Model 4 with printer and extras, for FREE. I wish it wasn't so far...

                        And this HUGE TRS-80 lot with a bunch of Tandy Hard-Drives: http://lexington.craigslist.org/sys/5537967639.html
                        PC/AT Clone, Gateway Tower--My first computer, upgraded to new ATX gaming motherboard. Heathkit HERO Jr. Robot--Your friend, companion and security guard!

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                          http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5637339665.html
                          Vintage Apple //e, Amazing Condition - $100
                          with Duo DIsk Drive
                          Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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                            Mac classic II

                            http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5626623713.html
                            Vintage Macintosh Classic II - $40 (Westminster)
                            Macintosh Classic II Model M4150. Includes keyboard, software, mouse and a StyleWriter II printer. All in good working order. $40
                            Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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                              http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/sys/5663010923.html
                              Vintage computer collection - complete lot - $600 (Fort Collins)

                              Vintage computer collection for sale as a complete lot, including:

                              - 1 TI 99/4A brand new in box, appears to be unused
                              - 2 Radio Shack Model I Computers plus 1 working power supply, both boot up
                              - 2 Radio Shack Model I Monitors, both boot up
                              - 1 Hard sided case for Radio Shack Model I Computer
                              - 1 Hard sided case for Radio Shack Model I Monitor
                              - 1 Radio Shack floppy disk drive
                              - 2 Commodore 64 Computers (power up, no monitor to test)
                              - 3 Commodore 64 1541 floppy disk drives
                              - 1 Commodore 64 1651-II floppy disk drive *(I wonder if they mean 1581?)
                              - 1 Atari 400 computer and cassette tape drive
                              - 1 Atari 5200 Trak-Ball Controller
                              - 1 Sega Genesis system and 2 controllers
                              - Lots of other books, manuals, games on floppy disk, game cartridge
                              Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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                                TRS-80 Model 4 - $500 (barnesville) No picture?
                                https://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/sys/5645132742.html

                                IBM XT - $300
                                https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/sys/5635658120.html

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