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We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

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    FS: Generic Pentium 233 MMX Personal Computer Desktop

    PMs only. Or contact me on AmiBay (PeterNY) or Vogons (PeterLI).

    FS: Generic Pentium 233 MMX Personal Computer Desktop

    Pentium 233 MMX CPU
    Matrox Millenium II PCI VGA
    Sound Blaster 16 ISA (no ASP/CSP chip) CT2290
    Tyan S1564 MOBO
    32MB RAM
    Windows 98 SE (you need to have a COA)
    Desktop case (3X 5.25" drive bays / 2X 3.5" drive bays), off white
    3.5" DS/HD FDD

    I am selling this machine because I now have an IBM Pentium 233 MMX and I prefer OEM.

    US: $125 shipped (CONUS only).

    PMs only. Or contact me on AmiBay (PeterNY) or Vogons (PeterLI).
    Last edited by PeterNC; February 28, 2015, 09:32 AM.

    Now $100. I do not want to put this in for recycling.
    Last edited by PeterNC; March 18, 2015, 04:21 AM.


      You might have better luck with this in the Off Topic Marketplace since this is not considered vintage.
      PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step


        It is vintage enough. There is no need to nit-pick.


          I would think anything from the Pentium 1 period would be vintage at this point. Whats it been? about 20 years now? besides any AT case is vintage enough. if I had money Id be tempted to buy it just for the case to stick a 486 or 386 in.


            Originally posted by oblivion View Post
            I would think anything from the Pentium 1 period would be vintage at this point. Whats it been? about 20 years now? besides any AT case is vintage enough. if I had money Id be tempted to buy it just for the case to stick a 486 or 386 in.
            Whether or not Pentium I-era PCs are "vintage" is a matter of debate, but they are welcome to be discussed and offered for sale here. From the Forum rules:

            Originally posted by VCF rules
            The definition of "vintage" gets discussed here a lot; use the forum areas as your guide. Any 8 bit or 16 bit machine is probably vintage. Early 32 bit machines such as 80386, 80486 or 680x0 based machines are probably considered vintage too but later 32 bit machines are probably not. There is a forum area for Pentium 1 based machines because there are so many of them but they are not terribly vintage. If you want to talk about or trade something newer there are "off topic" areas for that.


              Originally posted by PeterLI View Post
              Now $100. I do not want to put this in for recycling.
              For anyone looking for a Pentium-class system, this is a nice one. That Tyan Tomcat IV board has 8x 72pin SIMM slots on it...and it's more of a server/workstation-class board...there was a dual-CPU capable version of it (the S1564-D, this is the -S single). My first "real" PC build was with a Tomcat III. If I didn't already have a setup like this, I would be interested...



                No longer for sale.