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    #16
    I need to put together a BOM and add it to the Git repo. Everything's available through Mouser/DigiKey/et c.
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      #17
      Is it possible to get the PCB boards in green? (i dont know which color would be standard on this normal version)

      Is there an option if i buy the bare boards only (i dont know how much the shipping to the netherlands will be, but with everything included ( i mean the bare boards and the kits included)i think it will be much to high. And maybe i have to pay some tax / shipping fee`s as well) that i can purchase any kits later ( if i cant obtain them anywhere else)

      Bare boards: $8 USD ( is this for a single board, or also up to three?)

      How much will the shipping be for 6 bare green PCB boards? (rest of the components i can order my self, i think that this will be much cheaper.)

      Do you maybe have a list of the components to buy? (do you get this from mouser electronics?)
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        #18
        Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
        Is it possible to get the PCB boards in green? (i dont know which color would be standard on this normal version)
        Basically, no. If you want green you're going to have to run them yourself. I will do a run in green if enough people want them in green, but basically everyone else who has expressed interest in these boards have been fine with blue. You are of course free to use the design files to run the boards in whatever color your like. FYI you have to do a run of 100 boards to get the price-per-board to a reasonable level if you want hard gold plating on the edge connector.

        Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
        Is there an option if i buy the bare boards only (i dont know how much the shipping to the netherlands will be, but with everything included ( i mean the bare boards and the kits included)i think it will be much to high. And maybe i have to pay some tax / shipping fee`s as well) that i can purchase any kits later ( if i cant obtain them anywhere else)
        Sure, I guess that's fine, but I don't know that you will be saving any money by splitting the shipment up. It's usually more cost-effective to *combine* shipping.

        Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
        Bare boards: $8 USD ( is this for a single board, or also up to three?)
        This is the price per board. There are no price breaks for larger quantities. I'm selling the boards and parts kits basically at cost.

        Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
        How much will the shipping be for 6 bare green PCB boards? (rest of the components i can order my self, i think that this will be much cheaper.)
        No idea. I have to package orders up, weigh them, and measure the box to determine shipping. International shipping is especially variable. I can't just guess at a number for you on this. Experience shows it will be somewhere in the range of $15 - $35 USD.

        Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
        Do you maybe have a list of the components to buy? (do you get this from mouser electronics?)
        The answer to this is literally the post above yours. I need to put together a Bill of Materials. I haven't yet as I'm very busy at the moment. I'm currently out of town at a conference.
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          #19
          Which files / or information do i need to process my own boards? Because i dont have any skills of making my own pcb designs.

          I thought it would be an easy route to order the bare boards from you.. But it seems it isnt.

          Why did you change the color of these boards if previously you where using a nice style green color..


          Can you also tell me how much stock you still have of those blue PCB boards? Because maybe you have to pre-order again, so you possible havent enough available to ship them quick.

          Would it be possible if you can ask if the community wants a green version of this board. Maybe they want the blue because they know those can already be purchased. And if green is / was possible they know they have to wait much longer or still
          no availability when do would have to wait longer.
          Last edited by Robin4; July 23, 2016, 05:32 AM.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
            Why did you change the color of these boards if previously you where using a nice style green color..
            Just out of curiosity... what makes green so important to you? Does the color have some affect on performance or something else I'm not but should be aware of? AFAIK, once you install the board in a computer you can't see it anyway so the color of the board's surface seems to be totally irrelevant.
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              #21
              Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
              Which files / or information do i need to process my own boards? Because i dont have any skills of making my own pcb designs.
              They're all up on the GitHub project I posted in the build thread. The files you will need to submit will depend on the fab you decide to use. If you have never had boards manufactured before, I don't recommend starting with a project that has a non-square shape and special requirements like gold plating.

              Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
              I thought it would be an easy route to order the bare boards from you.. But it seems it isnt.
              Sorry you feel that way. About 45 other peope have successfully orders about 75 boards from me.

              Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
              Why did you change the color of these boards if previously you where using a nice style green color..
              I have never run these boards in green. You're getting me confused with someone else. I chose blue for the same reason I use it on most of my other projects: to me, it provides the best trace contrast. It goes inside a computer case anyway, so I'm not sure why color should matter.

              Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
              Can you also tell me how much stock you still have of those blue PCB boards? Because maybe you have to pre-order again, so you possible havent enough available to ship them quick.
              There's about 25 bare boards left. I'm not sure why you'd think I don't have enough to ship them quickly -- aside from two issues with overseas shipping, everyone's gotten their boards very quickly. I've tried to ship within three days of receiving payment, usually I ship same day or next day.

              Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
              Would it be possible if you can ask if the community wants a green version of this board. Maybe they want the blue because they know those can already be purchased. And if green is / was possible they know they have to wait much longer or still
              no availability when do would have to wait longer.
              I asked in the build thread. Changing the color means paying re-tooling costs when I order more boards.
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                #22
                Originally posted by glitch View Post
                It goes inside a computer case anyway, so I'm not sure why color should matter.
                Since Robin4 has not yet replied to my question (of him) as to whether the board's color has any relevance whatsoever regarding the board's performance or any other factor that matters I'm going to take your statement to mean that the answer here is a resounding NO!
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Stone View Post
                  Since Robin4 has not yet replied to my question (of him) as to whether the board's color has any relevance whatsoever regarding the board's performance or any other factor that matters I'm going to take your statement to mean that the answer here is a resounding NO!
                  Heh, of course not :P The only "performance" enhancement is that there *is* a solder mask layer, which of course reduces solder bridging as compared to bare FR4 with no solder mask.

                  As mentioned, I personally find that the cyan blue solder mask provides the best contrast for copper traces against the FR4.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Stone View Post
                    Since Robin4 has not yet replied to my question (of him) as to whether the board's color has any relevance whatsoever regarding the board's performance or any other factor that matters I'm going to take your statement to mean that the answer here is a resounding NO!
                    Sorry but iam not always on this forum. I prefer the green, because its more the original look. I know it cant come close like the old days when technology wasnt that advanced on producing pcb`s.. But green will me more close like those older boards.

                    Originally posted by glitch View Post
                    They're all up on the GitHub project I posted in the build thread. The files you will need to submit will depend on the fab you decide to use. If you have never had boards manufactured before, I don't recommend starting with a project that has a non-square shape and special requirements like gold plating.
                    There is a company in my neighborhood where i can inform what is possible or not.. 2 days ago i send them an e-mail, but have to wait for their response and the outcome.
                    So no iam not going to make these boards my self, perhaps some company in my country can produce them..
                    If the company i wrote cant produce them, then i will look around further.
                    Last edited by Robin4; July 24, 2016, 05:30 PM.
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                      #25
                      Whats the price for shipping 3, 5, 6, or 10 boards? (only the shipping costs)
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
                        Whats the price for shipping 3, 5, 6, or 10 boards? (only the shipping costs)
                        Originally posted by glitch View Post
                        No idea. I have to package orders up, weigh them, and measure the box to determine shipping. International shipping is especially variable. I can't just guess at a number for you on this. Experience shows it will be somewhere in the range of $15 - $35 USD.
                        I still have no way of determining the shipping without packing boards up for overseas orders.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by glitch View Post
                          I still have no way of determining the shipping without packing boards up for overseas orders.
                          Just for example:

                          1) A small flat rate box is $33.95.

                          2) A medium flat rate box is $66.90.

                          A small box would hold at least 5 or 6 and maybe more and a medium box would accommodate 50+.

                          I'm quite sure you could send 8-10 of them via First Class Mail for ~ $25.00.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Stone View Post
                            I'm quite sure you could send 8-10 of them via First Class Mail for ~ $25.00.
                            Yeah, most people have wanted a non-Flat Rate price. Obviously the convenience with Flat Rate is that it gets there sorta quick and you know exactly how much it'll cost. The packets I've sent out via First Class International fell in the range I stated above, so $25 is probably a reasonable guess. I'm just unwilling to make guesses and have people get angry when it's different.
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                              #29
                              ~$25 is for a one pound First Class parcel.
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Robin4 View Post
                                I prefer the green, because its more the original look.
                                I prefer non-green for my homebrew boards, to intentionally make them stand out as "not original/authentic/stock".

                                Later CGA cards are brown instead of green, which throws me off
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