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Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

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    From my recycle pile:

    Bankers box of 5 1/4 full height drives, 8 total. 6 are Tandon 2 are Texas Peripherals.

    2 imagewriter printers - both working

    1 imagewriter II printer - working - cover has some scrapes

    CBM Power Supply DV-5128-1 which is for 1541-II, 1571-II, 1581

    Mac 1m - chimes and boots to needs a disk but vertical lines on screen, case yellowed ,issing battery cover

    Will be adding more.

    Won't ship, must take it all.
    Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

    #2
    I will be in the area in 2 weeks, unfortunately with a wife on our annual roadtrip up the coast from SD to SF. I would take everything but she wont let me!

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      #3
      Common problem. They just don't understand
      Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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        #4
        But it's all free. How can she argue with that.
        PDP-8 and PDP-11 enthusiast. But enjoy most older PC stuff too.

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          #5
          The mini cooper with 2 people and a week's worth of luggage disagrees with it as well unfortunately.

          At this point it's not about money anymore, it's about space usage. My hobbies are starting to overflow into communal space and that's not what we agreed to. Leave one Tandy on the kitchen counter for a week and all of a sudden you have a "hoarding problem".

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            #6
            You'll need a bigger boat. Er, I mean car. Yeah, I get that on the mini.
            PDP-8 and PDP-11 enthusiast. But enjoy most older PC stuff too.

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              #7
              You just need some planning. On Monday, I drove home with a 25U rack in the back of a Prius. I had about 4 inches to spare.
              Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                #8
                In case of "won't ship" - and if something interest me - would You(and others reading this forum and probably in future) allow to sending someone to take the items? Maybe in future I will have this option, and not always I can travel.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pgru2 View Post
                  In case of "won't ship" - and if something interest me - would You(and others reading this forum and probably in future) allow to sending someone to take the items? Maybe in future I will have this option, and not always I can travel.
                  Not my stuff, but it's my opinion- as someone else who has given away stuff, but also won't ship (not worth the hassle and shipping is crazy these days) - of course someone can come pick it up for you. The point is to have someone come and get it, not who the final recipient is. Often shipping is the worst thing you can do to vintage gear for preservation!
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                  Hacking IRIX

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                    #10
                    OK, no serious responses so I'll sweeten it:
                    Trs-80 model II with a TON of software. I got this quite awhile back and just never got the time to dive into it. The cover was alreay loose so I'm assuming someone tried to work on it at one time. It has an 8" drive and 8 cards. A large box of binders some with the software.

                    a large box of USB keyboards and some mice.

                    I will probably add more "stuff" and again you must take it all.
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                    Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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                      #11
                      Cummon man! Why do you have to be on the wrong Coast?!

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                        #12
                        We are the "left" coast for sure.
                        Kaypro 1,2,II,2X,10 Apple IIe Apple IIgs Commodore 128d, 64 IBM 5160 Ampro littleboard

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by phogren View Post
                          OK, no serious responses so I'll sweeten it:

                          I will probably add more "stuff" and again you must take it all.
                          I appreciate how it's all or nothing, but it seems odd that adding more to it is going to encourage someone to "take it all" when they apparently didn't want what was offered in the first place.

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                            #14
                            Hes Purging, and I complete get it.

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                              #15
                              I might be interested. It looks like you are in San Francisco. Let me check a few things. I am near portland, so the drive would not be too bad.

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