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Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

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Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

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New user moderation

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1980's Vintage Laptops Wanted

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    1980's Vintage Laptops Wanted

    I collect 1980's clamshell laptops and a few A4 Computers, would like to buy:
    Dulmont Magnum:
    MicroOffice Roadrunner
    Teleram T-3000
    Sord 1S11c or 1S11
    Bull L'attache
    Bondwell B2
    Epson PX16
    IBM PC radio
    NEC 8500
    Texas Instruments Pro Lite

    Thanks Jim

    I have a Zenith Data Systems 8086 with a 20mb JVC drive that still works!!



      Most of that stuff is pretty hard to come by. Is the Bull a rebadged Zenith, or what? I'm not familliar with the IBM PC radio, what is it?

      Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

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        Aaron, I think I have most of the Zenith laptops from the 80's but what is the model # of it? What else may you have in laptops from the 1980's?? Regards, Jim


          I also have a zenith model # ZWL-184-02 if youre interested


            Originally posted by jim w View Post
            Dulmont Magnum, MicroOffice Roadrunner, Teleram T-3000, Sord 1S11c or 1S11
            Hello JW ... hope you weren't too upset about my comments elsewhere on your book ... anyway if you find any of those four laptops ... I'll fight ya for 'em!
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              Originally posted by mobilemaster View Post
              Hello JW ... hope you weren't too upset about my comments elsewhere on your book ... anyway if you find any of those four laptops ... I'll fight ya for 'em!
              Oooo...can I be the referee?

              Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

              Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.


                Originally posted by Terry Yager View Post
                ...I'm not familliar with the IBM PC radio, what is it?
                I think they are like the units carried in police cars now. I've got two of them, which I need to get at least one working (remembering that one had a broken LCD screen I think). Pictures can be put up by me if needed.
                Disclaimer: The username IBMMuseum and domain are not affiliated with IBM in any manner


                  Nah, that post is quite old now. I have subsequently aquired a few, thanx to curtis.

                  Teach your children how to think, not what, and hold 'em close, not tight.

                  Please visit the Vintage-Computer Wiki. Contributers welcome.


                    I have a working Teleram T-3000 with a 300 Baud modem.

                    However I live in hawaii, I'm willing to sell tho!




                        Teleram T3000

                        Do you still have have computer?



                          Do you still have, Jim


                            Suggest you check the poster's profile. He/she hasn't been on since Sept 17.

                            "It's a me-too, 8-bit machine with good graphics and a disk system nobody will support."
                            -- Bill Gates, about the Sony SMC-70 with the new 3.5" floppy drives (InfoWorld; June 7, 1982)


                              MicroOffice RoadRunner?

                              anybody got one (working or not)?

                              mine appears to be gone

                              it was a prototype, as i was one of the software engineers

                              how long did _your_ RAM cartridges last? i had a couple still with good data at 10 years. unfortunately, the company i was at needed a 480x128 LCD display, and silly me let the hardware guys borrow the one out my RR. they fried it after a couple days, so that was the last time i could test the cartridges. still beeped when i opened it up as of a couple years ago, but no screen.

                              oh, by the way - the OS wasn't "custom," it was InfoSoft I/OS, which was also in the coleco ADAM. our development system was a brute S100 machine (Golden West) running MultI/OS, a multi-user (4 users, 256K bank switched RAM) version of the same OS our product ran. worked great, till someone fired up WordStar, which polled the BIOS for keystrokes rather than waiting for input.