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Wanted: 2 x Pentium 3 Slot 1 800/100 FSB

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    Wanted: 2 x Pentium 3 Slot 1 800/100 FSB

    Looking for a couple (preferably matched) Pentium 3 slot 1 800 Mhz 100 FSB CPUs.
    What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
    Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
    Boxed apps and games for the above systems
    Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

    #2
    I have two Pentium II 350 Slot 1 (SL2U3) CPUs.
    PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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      #3
      I have a dual P2/P3 motherboard with 2 x 450's in it now (the last of the P2's), was looking for 2x 800's since that is supported officially. If I can't find slot 1's I might have to go with slockets and underclock some p3/1000/133's to 750/100 (if those CPUs work).
      What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
      Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
      Boxed apps and games for the above systems
      Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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        #4
        Careful with the slockets--some don't take to multiprocessor configurations without modification.

        There are more than a few dual Slot 1 mobos on eBay right now.
        Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unknown_K View Post
          I have a dual P2/P3 motherboard with 2 x 450's in it now (the last of the P2's), was looking for 2x 800's since that is supported officially. If I can't find slot 1's I might have to go with slockets and underclock some p3/1000/133's to 750/100 (if those CPUs work).
          800 is an ODD speed for the "end of support". If memory serves me, 600 and 850 were the more physical limitations of Pentium 3 boards. If the board only supports 100fsb, its max speed should goto 850. unless its a VERY early P3 board. If the board supports 133fsb then 1ghz support should be expected with the possibility of using adapters and getting 1.4 tualatins.

          Also, I do have a matched pair of SLOT 1000/133 processors. currently they just sit in a box, let me know.
          It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

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            #6
            Well I found a guy selling slot-1 700/100's for $9 each, will see if he has 2 of the same stepping. I have a dual GX (100FSB) chipset motherboard, was just looking for faster CPU's.
            What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
            Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
            Boxed apps and games for the above systems
            Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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              #7
              My point was that there are some sales on eBay that include the matched CPUs and the motherboard they go with--saves a lot of grief.

              I run a couple of P3/1000/133 in a Supermicro 440GX board. They run fine at 750/100fsb. I can also run them at 900/120fsb also without problems. At 1000/133fsb (yes, I know the GX isn't rated for that, but it was very robust chipset), I need a heatsink on the northbridge. But the difference in performance between 750 and 1000MHz isn't enough to worry about.
              Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                #8
                Its just a hobby machine, want to stick my 3dlabs Wildcat 4000 AGP+PCI CAD card in it when I am done. 700's should be fast enough and they are cheap enough so I ordered two. Sure there are motherboards with CPU's installed but they tend to not be that cheap (with the 2 new CPUs and the GX motherboard I will have $30 total into this including shipping).
                What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                  #9
                  CPU's are here and installed (they kind of looked new, no dust at all and same stepping unlike the old ones).
                  What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                  Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                  Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                  Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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