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Wanted: Ethernet, VGA, and Sound Card for my C= PC10-III 8088 System

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    Wanted: Ethernet, VGA, and Sound Card for my C= PC10-III 8088 System

    I'm working on my 8088 Commodore PC10-III project and was hoping to get a few cards. Please let me know if you have a compatible Ethernet, VGA, or Sound card available. I'm not looking to spend too much, but I will pay a reasonable price. It would be even better if I could get everything from a single seller.

    Thanks!

    Heather

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    I'm gonna ask the ignorant question (it's complementary) What slots/bit can it handle? I don't recall if it can do 16-bit or if it's strictly 8-bit ISA.
    Looking to acquire: IBM 5100, Altair 8800

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      #3
      Originally posted by barythrin View Post
      I'm gonna ask the ignorant question (it's complementary) What slots/bit can it handle? I don't recall if it can do 16-bit or if it's strictly 8-bit ISA.
      Does any 8088 have 16-bit slots? Need you even ask?
      PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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        #4
        There's a lot of 16-bit cards that work in 8-bit slots (i.e. soundblaster 16s and trident VGA cards)

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          #5
          Originally posted by Stone View Post
          Does any 8088 have 16-bit slots? Need you even ask?
          That's a much more relevant point. <Jedi>These are not the posts you're looking for.. carry on.. carry on..</Jedi>
          Looking to acquire: IBM 5100, Altair 8800

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            #6
            LOL. Yep, strictly 8-Bit ports. I only have two slots left, after building and installing an XT-IDE Rev 2. I think the order of importance I'd place on the cards is Video then Sound then Networking. I put networking last because I can easily transfer data via Zip drives. I think I could also use a Jaz drive on the system with the XT-IDE. Since this is my first 8088 project, I'd appreciate any other thoughts.

            Heather

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              #7
              In case no one has anything to offer here are some suggestions for 16 bit cards that will work in 8 bit slots:
              Video:
              http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...-ISA-VGA-cards

              Sound:
              http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...87-SB-16-on-XT

              For network you can try the Xircom PE3-10BT Parallel adapter. They used to be cheap and plentiful but are now harder to find.
              Good luck!
              Alex

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                #8
                Depending on what you want to do with the 5150 on the network there are several parallel port (or, in some cases, serial port) possibilities. Lantastic Z is a full-blown network option between two computers using either parallel or serial ports (or modems). LapLink is good for file transfers as is DOS Intersrv/Interlnk. And none of these requires a slot which is a definite plus on a 5150.
                PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                  #9
                  Thank you both for the links and suggestions. I forgot about using LapLink cables. I have three of them! Sounds like a network card is most likely going to be off the list.

                  I'll look around for some of the cards in the links, but I don't want to pay silly eBay prices.

                  Heather

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                    #10
                    Hi everyone,

                    I decided to build one of Sergey's ISA SVGA cards so I'm all set there. I suppose a sound card is not really necessary in an old XT machine, but I'll keep an eye out for one anyways.

                    I was also able to get the Serdrive working properly using the XT-IDE Rev 2 with UART that I built. Serdrive came in handy since my Commodore PC10-III has a maximum floppy drive size of 720K and MS-DOS 6.22 is only available on 1.44MB disks. Serdrive was able to mount the 1.44MB floppy disk image on my C= without issue. When asked for the next disk, I simply stopped Serdrive then started it again with the next floppy image.

                    Using the built-in serial port on my Win PC, I was able to get 115.2K baud transfers. I'll play around with some other types of serial devices to see if I can improve the speed, but it was a great feature that I can see myself using more in the future.

                    Thanks everyone!

                    Heather

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                      #11
                      Wow, that is pretty handy. I did not know about Sergey's projects.
                      How did you get the board made for the SVGA card and was it very much a challenge?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SkydivinGirl View Post
                        I was also able to get the Serdrive working properly using the XT-IDE Rev 2 with UART that I built. Serdrive came in handy since my Commodore PC10-III has a maximum floppy drive size of 720K and MS-DOS 6.22 is only available on 1.44MB disks. Serdrive was able to mount the 1.44MB floppy disk image on my C= without issue. When asked for the next disk, I simply stopped Serdrive then started it again with the next floppy image.
                        I'm glad to see that you found this useful! AFAIK, you're the first person on this forum to even try it (or at least report about trying it).

                        Using the built-in serial port on my Win PC, I was able to get 115.2K baud transfers. I'll play around with some other types of serial devices to see if I can improve the speed, but it was a great feature that I can see myself using more in the future.
                        If you have the hardware for it then you should be able to reach 921.6 kbps but it would require a CPU running at approximately 10 MHz and you would also need to use a faster crystal on the XTIDE v2 card. Beware though, this is theoretically speaking. As far as I know, no one has tried it yet. With an 8088 at 4.77 MHz you can achieve speeds up to 460.8 kbps at most.
                        Looking for a cache card for the "ICL ErgoPRO C4/66d V"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by amadama View Post
                          How did you get the board made for the SVGA card and was it very much a challenge?
                          I just ordered the parts so I'm not sure how much of a challenge it will be. Of course, the most difficult part of the build will be the surface mount Trident chip. The rest is through hole components which is no more difficult than any other build. I'll post my results and thoughts.

                          Originally posted by Krille View Post
                          I'm glad to see that you found this useful! AFAIK, you're the first person on this forum to even try it (or at least report about trying it).
                          Not only was it useful, it was perfect for the purpose of installing software on a new partition. Even having an HxC installed would not let me use disks greater than the 720K limit due to the fact that the floppy controller was the limiting factor. At first, I worked around the issue by installing DOS in a virtual environment then copying the installation via a ZIP drive. Using Serdrive was a much better option.

                          I also love the fact that you can use Serdrive to create virtual hard drive images. I can see a lot of uses for that.

                          Originally posted by Krille View Post
                          If you have the hardware for it then you should be able to reach 921.6 kbps but it would require a CPU running at approximately 10 MHz and you would also need to use a faster crystal on the XTIDE v2 card. Beware though, this is theoretically speaking. As far as I know, no one has tried it yet. With an 8088 at 4.77 MHz you can achieve speeds up to 460.8 kbps at most.
                          I *may* try to increase the crystal at some point, but my initial goal is to reach the 460.8K speed by using a higher speed serial port on my PC.

                          Heather

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SkydivinGirl View Post
                            my Commodore PC10-III has a maximum floppy drive size of 720K and MS-DOS 6.22 is only available on 1.44MB disks.
                            O RLY?

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                              #15
                              Well look at that! I couldn't find any copies on anything smaller than 1.44MB disks. I wonder if there was ever a non-upgrade version released on lower capacity disks...

                              Heather

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