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WTB or ANY info wanted: Panasonic CF-480 laptop

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    WTB or ANY info wanted: Panasonic CF-480 laptop

    So, this'll make me seem a little eccentric, so here's the backstory: my first computer was a GRiD 1660. Not a very good computer really, but it was my first computer and now I'm nostalgic about it. After a while I noted there were other computers that were really the same basic computer - first a Tandy, which I thought not strange at all considering Tandy owned GRiD at the time, but then I found DECpc and Siemens-Nixdorf models, and someone pointed out the basic model was manufactured by Matsushita, which is also Panasonic. So I learned a basic Panasonic version of the laptop existed and finally found a clue showing the model I'm looking for is a CF-480. I searched Google the best I could, and Google books, but I could only come up with this picture:

    So now that I know it exists, I want to add one to my collection, which if this is the base model, is going to be my "CF-480 variant collection" rather than my "GRiD 1660 variant collection".

    What market was it sold in? about how many were sold, or in other words was it very uncommon? is the keyboard japanese? did it have a color model? was the CPU a 386sx or sl? are there any pictures of it? is anyone willing to part with their's?

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    Yep, that's the base model. Good high-res shot. Those are rare. Give me a little bit, and I should be able to get you a basic spec sheet, as well as another variant you can look for, as I am almost certain this has a Tandy relative as well.

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      #3
      Dude I found something, we're super lucky, I just started wading through results for "Panasonic 386sl" and found it on a ukraine site or something: http://retro-pc.ucoz.ru/index/cf_480c/0-353

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        #4
        I found out the CF-480 is also known as the Tandy 3830 SL, there is also a SL/C variant with a color LCD. Yep, its a 80386SL as you thought, 25 Mhz. Maximum of 8 MB of RAM. It apparently uses some kind of proprietary 50 pin RAM module I've never heard of before.

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          #5
          Thanks for the help! So there's the Panasonic, Tandy, and GRiD. If memory serves Ast bought Tandy, so I wonder if there is an Ast version, haha. So it was sold in an eastern european market, and the color model has a C appended to it.
          Here are a couple copied pics of the CF-480 in case that site goes away, and since they were so tough to find:



          Here's a collage of all five of this model of laptop I'm interested in:
          Last edited by Caleb Hansberry; August 23, 2018, 08:24 PM.

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            #6
            They are asking way, way too much for it, but here is a functional GRiD 1660 on E-Bay:

            https://www.ebay.com/itm/Grid-1660-R...e/113288323438

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              #7
              Yeah, that one has actually been listed for years, but it took a break for a few months - I think the seller might have changed, but it's the same laptop.

              Yeah its hilariously overpriced. I made an offer once, I think it was like $200 which is very generous, but he declined. Unless it's been recapped already, it's going to fail soon, even if someone were to pay $600.

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                #8
                Agreed

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                  #9
                  http://www.sandyflat.net/digerati/as...grid/index.htm remarkable amount of relevant files

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                    #10
                    https://www.ebay.com/itm/323668737793 I'll have to pass on this one, but here is a rare example of a Panasonic laptop later than their beige models but older than their toughbooks:


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                      #11
                      Bump, still looking

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Caleb Hansberry View Post
                        Dude I found something, we're super lucky, I just started wading through results for "Panasonic 386sl" and found it on a ukraine site or something: http://retro-pc.ucoz.ru/index/cf_480c/0-353
                        If anyone is interested, I bought this laptop. Repaired it and now it works. By the way, I'm looking for a utility to configure the BIOS for it.
                        IMG_20211126_102455.jpg IMG_20211125_110117.jpg IMG_20211126_102949.jpg

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                          #13
                          Awesome!! Can you provide more pictures of the Panasonic laptop?

                          I can't remember off the top of my head how to configure the BIOS. I'll look on the laptops I have for a setup program.

                          Most importantly, what can you tell us about what was wrong with it and what you did to fix it? All of these laptops have problems now and it would really help me.

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                            #14
                            In total, I have three models, this Panasonic, black and white Siemens-Nixdorf PCD-3Nsl and color Siemens-Nixdorf PCD-3NCsl.
                            When they came to me, none of them worked, complete replacement of all capacitors solved the problem for CF-480C and PCD-3Nsl, but PCD-3NCsl still did not work. It suffered the most from the leaked battery and I think that some tracks on the board could be broken, which I did not notice.

                            It is interesting that on Siemens you can press Ctrl-Alt-Esc and get into the BIOS settings, on Panasonic you cannot do this.

                            I have a few photos from the assembly of Panasonic and I also have a bunch of photos of the boards, which I have already forgotten which ones from which laptop of these three.
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                            Last edited by dmiA; November 29, 2021, 09:33 AM.

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                              #15
                              Thanks, it looks very thorough! Windows 95 is an interesting choice for a 386! The Siemens does have some enhancements that the others dont have, the base model is the same but they made some nice enhancements.

                              Did you replace the capacitors in the screen? If so, did they make any difference?

                              I see that RAM card says "smart" on it, whcih I don't remember mine saying - is it a different capacity than the others?

                              I have to ask, do you have any interest in selling the Panasonic?

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