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Rule 1: Remain civil and respectful

There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.


Rule 2: Stay close to the original topic being discussed
  • If you are starting a new thread choose a reasonable sub-forum to start your thread. (If you choose incorrectly don't worry, we can fix that.)
  • If you are responding to a thread, stay on topic - the original poster was trying to achieve something. You can always start a new thread instead of potentially "hijacking" an existing thread.



Rule 3: Contribute something meaningful

To put things in engineering terms, we value a high signal to noise ratio. Coming here should not be a waste of time.
  • This is not a chat room. If you are taking less than 30 seconds to make a post then you are probably doing something wrong. A post should be on topic, clear, and contribute something meaningful to the discussion. If people read your posts and feel that their time as been wasted, they will stop reading your posts. Worse yet, they will stop visiting and we'll lose their experience and contributions.
  • Do not bump threads.
  • Do not "necro-post" unless you are following up to a specific person on a specific thread. And even then, that person may have moved on. Just start a new thread for your related topic.
  • Use the Private Message system for posts that are targeted at a specific person.


Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

Here are some obvious examples of when you should not reply to a thread and use the PM system instead:
  • "PM Sent!": Do not tell the rest of us that you sent a PM ... the forum software will tell the other person that they have a PM waiting.
  • "How much is shipping to ....": This is a very specific and directed question that is not of interest to anybody else.


Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.


Reporting problematic posts

If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.

If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.


New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.


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    Is there no hope for VCFED PM?

    Out of the last 4 PMs I've received, 3 have been blank (from different members). What can be done?
    Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

    #2
    Grab a Brawndo and watch the latest episode of "Ow My Balls!" as everything collapses around us?

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      #3
      I guess were hoping the next platform shift changes things for the better right?

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        #4
        Originally posted by SomeGuy View Post
        Grab a Brawndo and watch the latest episode of "Ow My Balls!" as everything collapses around us?
        thirst status: mutilated

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          #5
          The descent continues... Firefox is reporting an invalid SSL certificate. But, at least the forum is just about totally unresponsive. It really hurts to watch the decline of a once-useful forum.

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            #6
            The SSL certificate was renewed today, but apparently only for vcfed.org, not for www.vcfed.org. It's now using the vcfed.org one for the www sub domain, which of course is not valid.

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              #7
              I'm beginning to wonder, is it the intent of this forum's powers that be, to just let this wonderful thing slowly out to pasture? Perhaps it's just too much to administrate these days what with the Covid and all.
              Surely not everyone was Kung-Fu fighting

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                #8
                glad to know im not the only one experiencing certificate errors.. which i am still getting today i might add.

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                  #9
                  Make sure your root certificates are current.


                  http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/...-laziness.html
                  https://letsencrypt.org/docs/dst-roo...eptember-2021/
                  I use my C128 because I am an ornery, stubborn, retro grouch. -- Bob Masse
                  Various projects and oddities: http://oldvcr.blogspot.com/
                  Machine room: http://www.floodgap.com/etc/machines.html

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                    #10
                    We have put a lot fo effort into the PM issue. Unfortunately, the solution is much less than obvious. The way that vBulletin works, that information is hidden in the database. Because the database is so large, after all these years, searching for data like that is _extremely_ slow, and it's hard to find what you need.

                    The lack of support from the official vBulletin team does not help.

                    - Alex

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
                      Out of the last 4 PMs I've received, 3 have been blank (from different members). What can be done?
                      Are they blank when you go to the message center or when you go into that sort of thread view that is an option?

                      IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
                      IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
                      Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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                        #12
                        They are blank when I access them in my Inbox in the message center. Of course, the email notification gives me the first line of the message, which isn't really all that helpful.
                        Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                          #13
                          If you click on Messages at the top of the screen, then select the message from there, is it still blank? That should pop it up in a chat like window.

                          IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
                          IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
                          Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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                            #14
                            Yes, it's still blank.
                            Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
                              Yes, it's still blank.
                              Well dang, I was hoping that would be a good work around, but I guess not. Back to the drawing board on this one I guess.

                              It's almost certainly a permissions issue, but that is a bit like saying the needle is definitely in that haystack over there and not the others. We will continue to dig and see what we can find.

                              IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
                              IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
                              Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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