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Ink leaked in the insides of my HP Deskjet 932C during shipping

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    Ink leaked in the insides of my HP Deskjet 932C during shipping

    I wrote the seller on Ebay this, and I am waiting for a reply:

    "Today I opened up the box with the printer. Thanks for packing it well, but I have a problem unfortunately. It leaked leftover ink on the inside. I can see ink bleeding along the sides where plastic snaps together on the outside body too. Please see pics.

    I don't think it's safe to power on until it gets cleaned. I hope the circuitry is alright.

    I'm going to have to take it to a PC repair shop, as I have no experience in fixing leaked printers. It's not your fault. I had a inkjet printer in the past that leaked due to being stored vertically, not horizontally.

    Do you have any experience with this yourself? I took off the back cover as you can see, but I don't know how to get into the insides. I rather not return the printer if the problem is fixable"

    Any hope for my printer? Anyone have any experience cleaning this particular model? Thank you very much for any help.
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    These things have an ink catch tank, which is used for cleaning (whenever you power the printer on). That can leak easily when shipped.

    The ink will not damage anything. It will also not cause any harm the pcb. Just clean it and you are good to go. Now there are a few optical sensors inside - but very unlikely the ink got there.


      Yes, you need to be very careful when moving or shipping used inkjet printers for this reason.

      Got the teeshirt and the ink stain on the furniture under our old printer to prove it!

      The used ink tray should have been removed and cleaned before shipping.



        Thank you friends! I shall confidently take it to the shop to be cleaned.


          Is it worth the cost of cleaning? I've had DJ's foisted on me as a condition for getting something that I really wanted. Gutless wonders, as I recall.
          Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.


            I checked and none of the local PC shops want to fix it. So I guess I'll ask for a refund, or try cleaning it myself. Hopefully the leak is not so bad...


              Inkjet printers in general to me, are the attempt to make money by selling ink. King Gillette - give away the razor and sell the blades.
              Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.


                I saw a manual for the 930C version. It has the same body case. I saw info on fixing paper jams, but nothing on how to open the printer up. Have any of you ever serviced one of these HP 930C/932C printers? Thanks.