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XTIDE Universal BIOS v2.0.0 beta testing thread

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    Originally posted by sparky4 View Post
    i will try the auto detection test later! it dose fail! I do not think it works normally with my XT-IDE 2 card
    compatibility mode
    the default i think 30....

    the 286 cannot have 2 drives! but it works with 1 drive only which is strange

    I think the xtide bios canot detect 2 hard drives well ...
    auto detection works but with oprom.bin version 0.11 only, on my XT that is, which has 2 really large hdds
    all i know is that the bios is not autodetecting hard drives like it is supposed to when there is 2 hard drives
    Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, the autodetection I'm talking about is the detection of IDE controllers in XTIDECFG, not the detection of drives by the BIOS when booting. Although I am of course interested in problems with that too.

    If the card is jumpered for compatibility mode then XTIDECFG should detect it as an XTIDE rev1 card because that is basically what it is from the software's point of view. If you jumper it to hi-speed mode then it should be detected as an XTIDE rev2. Also note that the autodetection in XTIDECFG doesn't care what BIOS is programmed in the ROM (on the card or elsewhere), what matters is the BIOS loaded in XTIDECFG. To detect an XTIDE card (rev 1 or rev 2) you need to load a BIOS with MODULE_8BIT_IDE. In r567 all the BIOS files contain this module so any of them should work for autodetection.

    The OPROM.BIN version 0.11 is an older BIOS made by hargle and is not a version of the XTIDE Universal BIOS. You probably know this already but I mention it because some people seem to be confused about this.

    As for the 286 with 2 drives; make sure both drives are jumpered correctly. Some very old drives need jumpers specifically for compatibility with other certain drive models. Also make sure the IDE cable is OK.

    Originally posted by Malc View Post
    I decided to try again with R567 XT-IDE BIOS and it looks like the bios is finding the CF Card or something but displays an @ symbol instead of displaying " CF Card " when it detects one. I get an error when trying to access the card.

    Has anyone got a 16-bit controller with CF Card / adapter working in a 5150 ?.
    Krille , James any ideas ?
    Judging by the lack of responses, you are apparently the only one with a 16-bit IDE controller in a 5150. I guess there isn't much else to do but wait until someone else tries this. Or, if someone knows the differences in hardware between the 5150 and 5160 that could also potentially be very helpful.
    Looking for a cache card for the "ICL ErgoPRO C4/66d V"

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      Originally posted by Krille View Post
      Judging by the lack of responses, you are apparently the only one with a 16-bit IDE controller in a 5150. I guess there isn't much else to do but wait until someone else tries this. Or, if someone knows the differences in hardware between the 5150 and 5160 that could also potentially be very helpful.
      Haha It's not that i want or need a 16-bit IDE controller in my 5150, It's just that i was curios as to why it doesn't work, My curiosity has died off now and she's back to the way she's always been a twin 360k floppy machine.

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        Originally posted by pearce_jj View Post
        Great news!

        Yes it will work with the original; use the 8K binaries.

        Aitotat - don't suppose the flash utility supports sst39sf0x0a chips?
        I've just been playing around with my IBM 5150 which has an XT-CF Lite board installed. From the information I get from jimmy, who gave me the computer, it is a revision 4. During boot, I get the 4 blue/cyan bars at the top of the screen, and just below those, I get what appears to be an error 601.

        Then a couple of lines below that, I get another message stating Slave @300h Not Found after loading the AST clock and Norton Commander.

        Everything SEEMS to be OK at that point, but being somewhat of a perfectionist these inconsistencies still bother me. Are these important? Looking at the autoexec, does it appear that anything is inherently wrong with the setup?
        Wanted: - Complete SERIES ONE TRS-80, IBM 5170 AT, Original authentic IBM 5100 Portable, IBM 5151 Monitor. Also looking for Packard Bell 75Mhz computer, Commodore Pet w. Built-in cassette drive, amber 12 CRT, Mac SE-30 hard disk to replace the bad drive currently installed, TRS-80 Coco series 1 upgrades including memory, IBM PC 5160 compatible CD ROM.

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          Can you post a photo of the card, and the screen output in question?

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            Attempting to fix a problem that just occurred and cannot seem to resolve.

            I just got this 5150 working with an XT-CF Lite with XT-IDE universal BIOS. Everything was working OK. The CF card I'm using is a 32 Meg Sandisk. I added a directory of programs to the card that I was going to bring over to me other 5150 via floppy. The floppy disc was not inserted yet. When I booted the computer it displayed 4 "menu items" showing. Then below it shows "Master@300H Not Found" and under that "Slave@300H Not Found". I cannot get the system to boot into DOS on the CF card. My autoexec.bat reads as follows:

            ECHO OFF
            CLS
            PATH=C:\DOS;NCMNDER
            PROMPT $P$G
            C:\AST\ASTCLOCK
            C:\NCMNDER\NC
            VER

            What am I missing?


            .
            Wanted: - Complete SERIES ONE TRS-80, IBM 5170 AT, Original authentic IBM 5100 Portable, IBM 5151 Monitor. Also looking for Packard Bell 75Mhz computer, Commodore Pet w. Built-in cassette drive, amber 12 CRT, Mac SE-30 hard disk to replace the bad drive currently installed, TRS-80 Coco series 1 upgrades including memory, IBM PC 5160 compatible CD ROM.

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              Originally posted by bettablue View Post
              What am I missing?
              Make sure the CF card is properly inserted. If this doesn't fix it then there is some kind of hardware problem (since the CF card is not detected by the BIOS). Also, in case you don't know this, the CF cards can not be removed/inserted while the machine is running (they are not hotpluggable). So remember to always power down before removing or inserting the card.
              Looking for a cache card for the "ICL ErgoPRO C4/66d V"

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                Also check the card is actually configured for 300h - see switch settings here (if it's one of my cards).

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                  Originally posted by pearce_jj View Post
                  Also check the card is actually configured for 300h - see switch settings here (if it's one of my cards).
                  The XT-CF Lite is one of yours. The CF card is a SanDisk 32 MB. When jimmy (in the forums) was putting the system together for me, he had a LOT of problems getting it to work with a CF card ANYTHING larger than 32 MB. He attempted to use a 100 MB, and a 1 GB drive, and neither would work at all. The only one he was eventually able to get working was the 32 MB card he sent me.

                  The funny thing is that the card and system were working fine one day, then the next it wouldn't, and the computer went into BASIC on the computer's ROM.
                  Wanted: - Complete SERIES ONE TRS-80, IBM 5170 AT, Original authentic IBM 5100 Portable, IBM 5151 Monitor. Also looking for Packard Bell 75Mhz computer, Commodore Pet w. Built-in cassette drive, amber 12 CRT, Mac SE-30 hard disk to replace the bad drive currently installed, TRS-80 Coco series 1 upgrades including memory, IBM PC 5160 compatible CD ROM.

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                    Sounds like the card might have an issue - I'll send you PM.

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                      How much time does the current XT-IDE BIOS add to the boot time of an 8088 system?
                      My Retro Computing and Vintage Gaming Blog : http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/

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                        Originally posted by Great Hierophant View Post
                        How much time does the current XT-IDE BIOS add to the boot time of an 8088 system?
                        That's a peculiar question. It's like asking "how long is a rope?". The answer is it depends. How many controllers and drives are in the system (under the control of XUB)? Which drives are being used (CF or harddrives, older or newer drives)? Which modules were included in the build (if using a custom build) and what settings are used (is the serial drive detection set to always scan and if so, how many serial ports are in the machine and is there a server connected, etc)?

                        It also depends on what you're comparing with. An earlier version of the BIOS? Booting from floppy? Generally speaking I would expect the boot time to be reduced in the latter case.

                        I'm also curious to know why it matters. Is there a problem with excessively long boot times?
                        Looking for a cache card for the "ICL ErgoPRO C4/66d V"

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                          Bettablue,

                          I installed a 256mb compactflash card in my xt-cf lite card. I wasn't able to use more than 32mb until i realized that dos 3.3 was the problem. I din't know that dos 3.3 has a 32mb limit for hard drives. I switched to dos 7 and now it is working great wih full 256mb access in my 5150. Hope you have the same problem so you can solve it easily.

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                            Originally posted by Krille View Post
                            That's a peculiar question. It's like asking "how long is a rope?". The answer is it depends. How many controllers and drives are in the system (under the control of XUB)? Which drives are being used (CF or harddrives, older or newer drives)? Which modules were included in the build (if using a custom build) and what settings are used (is the serial drive detection set to always scan and if so, how many serial ports are in the machine and is there a server connected, etc)?

                            It also depends on what you're comparing with. An earlier version of the BIOS? Booting from floppy? Generally speaking I would expect the boot time to be reduced in the latter case.

                            I'm also curious to know why it matters. Is there a problem with excessively long boot times?
                            I like to keep boot times to a minimum. I would just use one CF card and no serial anything.
                            My Retro Computing and Vintage Gaming Blog : http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/

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                              Yeah, thanks. I had figured that out too. However, I do have DOS 6.22 to play around with. From what I gather by reading what I could find, I can use up to an 8 GB flash card without any issues, AND with minimal partitioning.

                              I'm currently waiting for mine to get back to me. James Pearce asked me to return it to him so he could diagnose it for other problems it was experiencing. Since he offered to either repair/replace the card at no cost to me, how could I refuse? The XT-CF Lite was missing a capacitor, and one of the card readers pins was bent, so he fixed those issues, solidifying the bent pin with hot glue. (Nice touch to keep it from happening again). I'm just waiting for it to get back so I can reinstall it to my 5150 and begin transferring software and data to Alice, my other 5150, with attached expansion unit.

                              Woo Hoo!!! I can't wait.

                              Thanks again for the insight. Have a great weekend.

                              Tom



                              Originally posted by mac512 View Post
                              Bettablue,

                              I installed a 256mb compactflash card in my xt-cf lite card. I wasn't able to use more than 32mb until i realized that dos 3.3 was the problem. I din't know that dos 3.3 has a 32mb limit for hard drives. I switched to dos 7 and now it is working great wih full 256mb access in my 5150. Hope you have the same problem so you can solve it easily.
                              Wanted: - Complete SERIES ONE TRS-80, IBM 5170 AT, Original authentic IBM 5100 Portable, IBM 5151 Monitor. Also looking for Packard Bell 75Mhz computer, Commodore Pet w. Built-in cassette drive, amber 12 CRT, Mac SE-30 hard disk to replace the bad drive currently installed, TRS-80 Coco series 1 upgrades including memory, IBM PC 5160 compatible CD ROM.

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                                Originally Posted by mac512
                                Bettablue,

                                I installed a 256mb compactflash card in my xt-cf lite card. I wasn't able to use more than 32mb until i realized that dos 3.3 was the problem. I din't know that dos 3.3 has a 32mb limit for hard drives. I switched to dos 7 and now it is working great wih full 256mb access in my 5150. Hope you have the same problem so you can solve it easily.
                                Actually you could use all 256 MB with DOS 3.3. You just need 8 32MB partitions.
                                PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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