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    Originally posted by Stone View Post
    Everything was working fine before you tried this BIOS upgrade, wasn't it?
    Yes. If this whole upgrade thing doesn't work out, I'm thinking I'll have to go back to 1.1.5. One of the reasons I wanted to upgrade the BIOS is I wanted to do the Chuck speed update to my Rev1 card. Also, I wanted to make sure the CF drive layout was the most "compatible" with modern equipment, as I'll be using the CF as a transfer card to get stuff over to this PC.

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      Originally posted by Holmes View Post
      .......I'll be using the CF as a transfer card to get stuff over to this PC.
      That's what i've been doing for some time, Transferring from my XP box to my XT via CF, Though more recently it's been via USB

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        Originally posted by Malc View Post
        That's what i've been doing for some time, Transferring from my XP box to my XT via CF, Though more recently it's been via USB
        Your XT has USB? Can you be more specific as to how? I use USB via DOS but even that requires a PCI card.
        PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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          Originally posted by Stone View Post
          Your XT has USB? Can you be more specific as to how? I use USB via DOS but even that requires a PCI card.
          I built one of the Lo-Tech experimental ISA - USB cards that uses the CH375B chip and WCH drivers, Works but a tad slow in the XT, Better in a 286 / 486.

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            Hi all, I'd like to tell you about a strange problem on my XT-CF rev2...it seems it does not write to CF master boot record.

            It starts, it detects drives and compactflash. I boot from floppy, then I try to fdisk the cf.
            Everything seems ok, but the led light stays on.

            I reboot as requested. When the floppy ends to boot, I try to format the drive. No disk present. Then I enter fdisk again and...no partition.

            This happens with an empty cf card. With an already formatted one the xt-cf boots and then i can do everything on it but writing.
            I create a folder,the led light is very bright, the folder is there but I cannot access it.

            I reboot the machine and the directory is not there anymore.

            FDISK /MBR gives the same result - led light and nothing happens.

            I have XTIDE BIOS R591 with boot menu, while previously the car had R567. Going back to 567 does not solve the problem.

            What do you think?
            Thank you in advance!
            Davide

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              Originally posted by Malc View Post
              Try this, download WipeDisk and run it from a DOS boot floppy, reboot and run FDISK and partition the drive, Reboot and run FDISK again check that the drive was partitioned 2Gb or less.
              Ok, I gave this a try. I ran wipedisk, then ran fdisk, partitioned for max which was 2gb, rebooted and checked partition and it was okay. Then I formatted and transferred system. Rebooted. Each time I rebooted, it detected cf okay and drive size was correct in the xtide menu.

              When I tried rebooting off c:, it froze after the "Booting C>>C" message. I rebooted off floppy and ran fdisk, and the partition is gone!

              Maybe I'll just go back to 1.1.5 and deal with it not being the fastest possible.

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                Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                Maybe I'll just go back to 1.1.5 and deal with it not being the fastest possible.
                I wouldn't think of that as your bottleneck when you're working with a 5150!

                BTW, why would you want 2 GB on a 5150? Don't you think that in 50 years it will still be 75% EMPTY? You might even have success with a smaller CF e.g., 1 GB or even much less.
                PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                  Originally posted by Stone View Post
                  I wouldn't think of that as your bottleneck when you're working with a 5150!

                  BTW, why would you want 2 GB on a 5150? Don't you think that in 50 years it will still be 75% EMPTY? You might even have success with a smaller CF e.g., 1 GB or even much less.
                  That's true, I probably won't notice the speed difference, except for that horrendously long time DOS takes to measure the free space on the hard drive. But I guess reducing the size of the HD would help that, too!

                  I didn't think reducing the size of the HD would make a difference with the problems I'm having. Are you saying get a smaller CF, or just make the partition smaller? Would that potentially fix my problem? I really don't want to buy another CF card.

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                    Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                    Ok, I gave this a try. I ran wipedisk, then ran fdisk, partitioned for max which was 2gb, rebooted and checked partition and it was okay. Then I formatted and transferred system. Rebooted. Each time I rebooted, it detected cf okay and drive size was correct in the xtide menu.

                    When I tried rebooting off c:, it froze after the "Booting C>>C" message. I rebooted off floppy and ran fdisk, and the partition is gone!

                    Maybe I'll just go back to 1.1.5 and deal with it not being the fastest possible.
                    Sounds more like a hardware problem to me, Have you got another CF adapter you can try, Like Stone said try another CF card a smaller one, You could also try another cable.

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                      Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                      That's true, I probably won't notice the speed difference, except for that horrendously long time DOS takes to measure the free space on the hard drive. But I guess reducing the size of the HD would help that, too!
                      Yes, it would help proportionately with the size of the drive.

                      Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                      I didn't think reducing the size of the HD would make a difference with the problems I'm having. Are you saying get a smaller CF, or just make the partition smaller? Would that potentially fix my problem? I really don't want to buy another CF card.
                      I was thinking a smaller CF... but it wouldn't hurt to try a smaller partition as that might be the root of all evil, here. Try something like 500 MB -- you'll never fill that up on a 5150 anyway. Or even smaller might be worthwhile. You know multiple partitions is not fatal!

                      BTW, what DOS version are you using?
                      PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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                        Originally posted by Malc View Post
                        Sounds more like a hardware problem to me, Have you got another CF adapter you can try, Like Stone said try another CF card a smaller one, You could also try another cable.
                        I do have another CF adapter coming, but it's not here yet. I find it unlikely that something broke physically in my setup, as all these components were working a few days ago under 1.1.5. I guess I might have zapped something since then.

                        Seems to me that something in R591 definitely works differently than 1.1.5. I do have other ide cables I can try.


                        Originally posted by Stone View Post
                        Yes, it would help proportionately with the size of the drive.

                        I was thinking a smaller CF... but it wouldn't hurt to try a smaller partition as that might be the root of all evil, here. Try something like 500 MB -- you'll never fill that up on a 5150 anyway. Or even smaller might be worthwhile. You know multiple partitions is not fatal!

                        BTW, what DOS version are you using?
                        I'm using MSDOS 5.0. I'll try a smaller partition. No I don't have any unused cf cards.

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                          Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                          I do have another CF adapter coming, but it's not here yet. I find it unlikely that something broke physically in my setup, as all these components were working a few days ago under 1.1.5. I guess I might have zapped something since then.

                          Seems to me that something in R591 definitely works differently than 1.1.5. I do have other ide cables I can try.
                          Many years ago one of my XT's with a R1 XT-IDE card developed a problem, At the time i think i changed the CF card for a bigger one 2Gb, I ran FDISK and partitioned the CF card, Rebooted and tried to format the card but failed, I ran FDISK again and there were no partitions defined, I went through the process again, Rebooted and again there were no partitions defined, The problem actually turned out to be one of the IC's on the card had gone faulty, I replaced the IC and have had no problems since.

                          A few years ago on another XT of mine i upgraded the XUB to a newer revision and was getting all kinds of weird things happening, One minute it worked, Reboot and the CF card wasn't recognized properly, Reboot and the CF card was corrupted, That turned out to be the CF adapter decided to turn it's toes up, I've seen similar problems through bad connections.

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                            Originally posted by Malc View Post
                            Many years ago one of my XT's with a R1 XT-IDE card developed a problem, At the time i think i changed the CF card for a bigger one 2Gb, I ran FDISK and partitioned the CF card, Rebooted and tried to format the card but failed, I ran FDISK again and there were no partitions defined, I went through the process again, Rebooted and again there were no partitions defined, The problem actually turned out to be one of the IC's on the card had gone faulty, I replaced the IC and have had no problems since.

                            A few years ago on another XT of mine i upgraded the XUB to a newer revision and was getting all kinds of weird things happening, One minute it worked, Reboot and the CF card wasn't recognized properly, Reboot and the CF card was corrupted, That turned out to be the CF adapter decided to turn it's toes up, I've seen similar problems through bad connections.
                            This actually sounds very much like the issues I am having.


                            So here's an update:

                            I was poking around, rereading everything again, and I went to the WIPEDISK page, and it says I have to hit "C" to wipe the disk, and specifies that it needs to be upper-case. I was only doing lower-case! So I tried it again, and it actually printed a message saying it was erasing, so this is different.

                            I tried everything again, switching out the IDE cable for another 80-wire one. I ran FDISK, created a 500MB partition. Booted again, and it garbled my CF name in the boot menu. I booted from A:, and went back into FDISK, and the partition was gone. I tried several times, and each time I created a new partition then rebooted, the partition was gone.

                            So I reflashed my XTIDE with 1.1.5, booted, FDISKed, formatted C: and transferred the system over, and it works! I rebooted from it several times, and it works each time, just like it used to.

                            So in the end, I think there is something with the XUB BIOS 2.0.0+ that is incompatible with my setup. Now if I can find a version of 1.1.5 that has been patched with the speed upgrade, I'll be set. In the absence of that, I think I'll be very happy with just a stable, working CF card to boot off.

                            Thanks Malc and Stone, and everyone for your help, and sorry to resurrect such an old thread and add a few more pages to it!

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                              Originally posted by Holmes View Post
                              ... I think there is something with the XUB BIOS 2.0.0+ that is incompatible with my setup. ...
                              You're not the only one to think so. I can't get any version newer than R588 to work reliably on mine!
                              I believe with my situation, it's a timing issue because I can get the newest version to work if i don't use "Turbo Mode" on my machine.

                              You might want to give R588 a try. It has most of the benifits of r591, including "High Speed Mode".
                              Last edited by ibmapc; March 14, 2017, 01:46 PM.

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                                Originally posted by ibmapc View Post
                                You're not the only one to think so. I can't get any version newer than R588 to work reliably on mine!
                                I believe with my situation, it's a timing issue because I can get the newest version to work if i don't use "Turbo Mode" on my machine.

                                You might want to give R588 a try. It has most of the benifits of r591, including "High Speed Mode".
                                Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'm done with trying XUB 2.0.0+. The beta-3 didn't work, and the R591 didn't work either, so I'm not enthusiastic about an intermediate version working.

                                Now I've just got to figure out how to clone over my hard drive to my CF. I tried XCOPY, but the version on MSDOS 5.0 doesn't have the /H flag to copy hidden files. I installed MS Word on this hard drive, and it doesn't work unless it finds those secret hidden Microsoft files that validate the install.

                                XCOPY, XXCOPY, CP, XWCPY, ... ???!?!?? The choices are endless.

                                I just tried connecting the hard drive to an IDE-to-USB adapter, and connected it to my Windows 8.1 laptop, and opened up a command-window and did an XCOPY (using the /H hidden attribute) with this setup to my CF card. I'll see if it worked.

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