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Best Dostools for an old XT/286 ?

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  • Chuck(G)
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    Originally posted by Trixter View Post
    I'd certainly like to see them, sure. ("his" version of xtree?)
    Tree86, I believe. I'll check around and dig them out.

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  • Trixter
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    Originally posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    What, no one mentioned David Aldrige's Cache86? I've got a copy because I was interested in the Windows 95 dustup
    Dismissed with prejudice!

    If anyone wants to try it--as well as his version of Xtree, I have the floppies.
    I'd certainly like to see them, sure. ("his" version of xtree?)

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  • Chuck(G)
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    What, no one mentioned David Aldrige's Cache86? I've got a copy because I was interested in the Windows 95 dustup

    If anyone wants to try it--as well as his version of Xtree, I have the floppies.

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  • ibmapc
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    Originally posted by dr.zeissler View Post
    Hi,

    what are the best tools for an XT/286 for:

    1. DiskCaching (Smartdrive Alternatives)
    2. Best compression/decompressiontool (zip, rar, etc.) what version? (which one supports FPU)
    3. Graphics viewer ? (All modes from Hercules, CGA,EGA,VGA)
    4. Music Player (Mod-Files)
    5. NortonCommander or clone
    6. tbc.

    Thx
    Doc
    Originally posted by dr.zeissler View Post
    Case/System: Schneider Tower AT
    CPU 286@10Mhz/Bus 10Mhz
    FPU IIT287@8Mhz
    GPU Onboard Gemini VC001 (EGA Hires)
    RAM 2MB-Ram
    HDD 1GB SCSI
    FDD 3,5" 1,44MB
    ISA1 Etherlink III
    ISA2 CT1350b with CMS Upgrade
    ISA3 Midiquest MPU401i with MT32
    ISA4 Bustek BT542 SCSI-Controller
    LPT1 ZipDrive + Covox
    SER Busmouse (Schneider)

    Doc
    When you said XT/286, I was thinking IBM 5162.
    Maybe you should have called it an AT/286.
    But even that would imply IBM.
    Am I being to picky here?

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  • dr.zeissler
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    Did not knew that Gem1x and Win1x/2x got VGA support!
    http://www.seasip.info/Gem/gem1vga.html
    http://www.seasip.info/DOS/Win1/vga.html

    Something for my 286/8 A2286 BB in my Ak2

    btw: Ncache/Ncache2 both do not work on my A2286 Setup. Smartdrive works, lightning works too.

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  • Caluser2000
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    I guess the whole idea of customising a system is to set it up the way you want. There are some old farts that even think using a menuing system in Dos is cheating My current 286/12 system has no menuing setup at all. I just set the directories up in the PATH= statement and run the *.exe, *com, and *.bat etc from the C:\> prompt. There really is no "correct" solution. It only has a 40meg hard drive at the present so I remember most of what I need to run on it. That includeds networking, Geoworks 2.0/Windows 3.1, some utilities and a few games. For extra storage I'm using a LS120 parallel port drive at present, with a Backpack CDRom drive daisy chained off of it.

    So yeah there's more than one way to skin that cat.
    Last edited by Caluser2000; May 29, 2015, 11:23 AM.

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  • dr.zeissler
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    No, I start all Programs over the HDMENU and use the batchfiles for other things.
    e.g. compression/decompression copying, activate the connection to the nas. etc.

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  • Trixter
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    Originally posted by dr.zeissler View Post
    I have a "scripts" folder in path. for everything I use regularly I create a batch file. So I simply don't need "doskey".
    Are you saying that you only have one directory in your path, and you create batch files to execute every single program you want to run? If so, that's really wasteful; even a 1-byte batch file will take up an entire cluster on your hard drive. Besides, is it really that big a deal to type "cd \games\action\keen4" before running your program?

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  • Stone
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    Originally posted by dr.zeissler View Post
    So I simply don't need "doskey".
    Sorry, but after reading that I couldn't do anything else.

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  • dr.zeissler
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    Originally posted by konc View Post
    My two cents:
    -I use rar 2.50 as an archiver because of the GUI. Very much like norton commander, so it feels familiar.
    -DOSKEY.COM as a doskey replacement because of less memory (ok, no big deal) but also for the TAB completion functionality. That's a big plus for me!
    I have a "scripts" folder in path. for everything I use regularly I create a batch file. So I simply don't need "doskey". the problem is, remembering the batch filename,
    but this is truly optimizable. I think I can put the batch files in the HD-menu...this should be one of the next targets.

    Doc

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  • dr.zeissler
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    everything that costs more conventional memory is mostly less useful. the key is, getting a good functionality with a wide compatibility with small hdd and ram usage.
    as I said before "eierlegendewollmilchsau"

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  • konc
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    My two cents:
    -I use rar 2.50 as an archiver because of the GUI. Very much like norton commander, so it feels familiar.
    -DOSKEY.COM as a doskey replacement because of less memory (ok, no big deal) but also for the TAB completion functionality. That's a big plus for me!
    Edit: that's DOSED.COM
    Last edited by konc; May 29, 2015, 09:45 AM.

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  • Trixter
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    Originally posted by dr.zeissler View Post
    "modplay/glx" I already use both of them, so there is probably no better option known.
    With all due respect to Mark J. Cox, MODPLAY is a terrible modplayer. It was the second modplayer ever made for the PC (first was Trakblaster IIRC), but it was by no means the best; it is slow and it gets some effects wrong. There are plenty of better 286-compatible modplayers, but the best "overall" one is Galaxy Player due to its speed and format support. (It also gets some effects wrong, though.)

    Tell me what you think about "hdmenu".
    It's very good; I'm surprised I hadn't heard of it before. It's a very lightweight, easy-to-use menu program made a few years before "Direct Access" (which is ugly and bloated IMO). Written mostly in Turbo Pascal 3.0. It feels like a commercial product, but I can't find any reference to it in back-issues of 1980s magazines...

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  • Chuckster_in_Jax
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    Don't forget the command line enhancer\replacement called 4DOS and it's variations:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4DOS

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  • Caluser2000
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    Originally posted by SpidersWeb View Post
    DOSKey lets you scroll/search through previous commands. You don't need it all the time, but when you have to retype a full DOS command you really wish you'd loaded that small TSR
    Of course the same functionality is in the DrDos 6 kernel, no tsr required.

    I used a US market version Xtree on my first 286 it had a menu function build in. Also used cshow and the disk cache that shipped with DrDos 6.0.
    Last edited by Caluser2000; May 28, 2015, 11:33 PM.

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