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    #16
    Originally posted by VERAULT View Post

    That would have been a good photo to take of you playing at the time.
    If only.

    My memories are dim about it, but I was fascinated.

    I also remember playing all the electromechanical games, especially Periscope which was a lightbulb below a fiberglass seascape with little models of ships going past on a belt.
    Current fleet
    TRS80 Model 4 - BBC B - Tatung Einstein - PCW9512 - PET 3032 - C64 - ZX81 - Spectrum 48K - Amiga A500 - Apple II europlus - Apple iMAC G3. Sharp MZ-80K. - IBM 5160 XT - Multibus 286/10 - Micro PDP 11/73 - Rainbow PC100A - MicroVax II - MicroVAX 3100, 3300, VAX 4000 VLC & 4000 Model 96 - AlphaStation 225 Apricot PC - Apple Performa 6200 - Apple Mac IIcx - Osborne 1 - ACT Sirius 1

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      #17
      Originally posted by Gary C View Post

      If only.

      My memories are dim about it, but I was fascinated.

      I also remember playing all the electromechanical games, especially Periscope which was a lightbulb below a fiberglass seascape with little models of ships going past on a belt.
      There was this one that a close neighborhood bud had (50's). I think it was called "Photoelectric Football". It was a box that had a small bulb and the top was a football grid. The was a set of offensive and defensive cards which were inserted after the "huddle" and the offense "team" would slowly pull the card out and a "light" trial would reveal where the offensive player was running or passing. If the light trail hit a big black spot *defense) then that was end of the play. This was sort of a rainy day thing. That's all I can recall about it as that was about 70 years ago.

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      Last edited by Agent Orange; August 7, 2021, 10:49 AM.
      Surely not everyone was Kung-Fu fighting

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        #18
        Originally posted by Gary C View Post
        Talking of Atari, I do remember playing an original Pong machine at a county fare, it s cabinet was mounted in a truck and free to play (one game only then queue again)

        Can't remember the year but it must have been around 74 ?
        I recall seeing early (plywood-housed) Pong at Andy Capp's in Sunnyvale. When it came out it was popular. At about that time, another wildly popular game showed up there called "Gran Trak". Plywood cabinet with a steering wheel and gearshift--black and white video. One member of our department spent hours after work playing it. Interestingly, after his divorce, he purchased a Pantera and took a transfer down to Texas (he also bought an early Pulsar wristwatch. Evidently his ex came from old money.) On the way down, he managed to wrap said Pantera around a utility pole. His insurance paid up and then tore up the policy.

        I mostly remember Capp's because they had a great selection of soups for lunch.
        Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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          #19
          I remember Chuck E. Cheeses arcades from the early 1980s. They were so fantastic. Nothing like that mc donald's Ball pit with the same name they still have today.... I tell younger people about it and they dont believe me.. Man that place was magical. You know my mother gave me a sack of coins she was collecting 15 years ago.. Inside I found two of the old tokens from Chuck e Cheeses from when I was younger.. He looks like a Giant Rat! Ah good times.

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            #20
            Talking about vintage games.

            Fired up the beeb yesterday (finally managed to get a case that can take a 51/4 floppy and the Gotek in one and played Thrust

            Fantastic fun and I remember it being hailed at the time because of its 'realistic' physics of mass, acceleration and inertia

            Only could get to level 5 though
            Current fleet
            TRS80 Model 4 - BBC B - Tatung Einstein - PCW9512 - PET 3032 - C64 - ZX81 - Spectrum 48K - Amiga A500 - Apple II europlus - Apple iMAC G3. Sharp MZ-80K. - IBM 5160 XT - Multibus 286/10 - Micro PDP 11/73 - Rainbow PC100A - MicroVax II - MicroVAX 3100, 3300, VAX 4000 VLC & 4000 Model 96 - AlphaStation 225 Apricot PC - Apple Performa 6200 - Apple Mac IIcx - Osborne 1 - ACT Sirius 1

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