Just got the Ultralite in, I got a REAL basketcase, lol. Rusty oscillator, looks like water damage, ticks when the battery is installed, no status on the LCD display, LCD panel thrashed but control boards good, AC Adapter is down for the count as well, and the plastic is cracked. When they said "for parts" they were not kidding. Managed to use a few parts to fix the M/75 I just got.
The M/75 was also a bit of a basketcase - overpaid. But the chassis on this one is flawless - no cracked plastic, though the mold work looks different from the others in some respects. Should have used this plastic with the older molds and it would have been a killer mix. It also looks like NEC was using a different screen panel setup as well as the screen cable, LCD Controller daughter card (daughter card that sits between the PCMCIA slots and the Hard Drive connector), and screen cable are all incompatible with the regular screen cable/controller combos.....or there's something wrong with that entire mix as the screen just shows lines, the cable refuses to boot with any other screen, and the LCD controller won't let the PC boot with a different screen assembly installed. So either there's something special about the NL6448AC30-12 LCD panel, or there's something broken along the way that allows only that combo to work (but with the screen shifted down by 32 pixels - making the DOS prompt invisible). So I swaped in the NL6448AC30-06 from the 40EC in with the screen cable from the Ultralite and my 1st M/75's LCD Controller card (Which might prove useful later as I'm going to be doing the baking-soda/superglue trick on the touch screen and put a new panel in it - or repair the NL6448AC30-10 it originally had with new controller boards).
And a hit, anyone else with an NEC versa that's prone to cracking and has a good engineer's eye can really solidify that plastic with the Baking Soda Superglue trick. I did iit to my P/75, it's been two weeks after molding new parts and gluing things together using this combination and nothing has let loose and everything is rock solid. Even the existing plastic is not cracking.
And speaking of plastic, the Ultralite cracked to pieces in shipping. I'm seriously toying with making a "Jigsaw Puzzle" out of this project and put it back together with the BS + Superglue, filling in spots where I can't find the original plastic with J.B. Weld Original and then puting fiberglass gause and BS + Superglue on the back for ridgitiy. Maybe some Titebond Epoxy flood fills in certain very weak areas. What I'm hoping is I get good enough at this that I can maybe rebuild and save a few more of these PC's from the trash simply from the plastic case problem.
I'm also working on my board level repair skills - I'm keeping all motherboards until I figure out what's killed/harmed them - and making necessary repairs if possible.
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This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.
This forum has been around in this format for over 15 years. These rules and guidelines help us maintain a healthy and active community, and we moderate the forum to keep things on track. Please familiarize yourself with these rules and guidelines.
Remain civil and respectful
There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.
Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.
This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.
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"PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)
This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.
In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.
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Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.
Copyright and other legal issues
We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.
Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.
Reporting problematic posts
If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.
If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.
New user moderation
New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.
New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.
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