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Toshiba t3100 errors

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mindingulove

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Ive got a Toshiba t3100 and some errors occur during boot.
It says hard disk controller failure strike the f1 to continue f2 to run the set up utility
If I press f1 I get insert system disk in drive press any key to continue
If I press f2 I get hard disk 1 failed initialization hit any key to continue. That brings me to setup.
Thank you! If someone could help me with that I would be glad
 
Sounds like hard disk 1 has indeed failed :(

You could open up the computer and see if the disk is actually spinning, but there's probably not much you can do besides replacing the drive; if it is really a T3100 (not a T3100e) then it's not a 'normal' IDE drive and a replacement may be a little hard to find.

Maybe an XT-CF lite would work as a replacement...

Good luck!
 
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mindingulove said:
Its the "e" version with 40mb HD. I found one HD with 40 mb but not sure if it its compatible. Has ide interface
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If it's the 'e' version then you're in luck; it does use a standard IDE drive but only provides BIOS entries for a 20MB and a 40MB drive and I don't recall offhand what the parameters are (i.e. which drives will work). Google might help...

But you can use what's known as a DDO (Disk Drive Overlay) if your drive is not natively compatible.
 
MikeS said:
If it's the 'e' version then you're in luck; it does use a standard IDE drive but only provides BIOS entries for a 20MB and a 40MB drive and I don't recall offhand what the parameters are (i.e. which drives will work). Google might help...

But you can use what's known as a DDO (Disk Drive Overlay) if your drive is not natively compatible.
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Taking a photo of the bios will help finding the parameters?
 
You can use any IDE, even if not supported. I got a 512mb IDE working into my Olivetti M300 (that one is a bastard), which doesn't support anything different than some HDDs listed in the BIOS.
Put in a 40-256mb IDE HDD, open Setup and choose 40mb. That should do the trick, but you will not be able to use more than 40mb, of course. For example, i'm limited to an odd 87mb :eek:
 
Jack. said:
You can use any IDE, even if not supported. I got a 512mb IDE working into my Olivetti M300 (that one is a bastard), which doesn't support anything different than some HDDs listed in the BIOS.
Put in a 40-256mb IDE HDD, open Setup and choose 40mb. That should do the trick, but you will not be able to use more than 40mb, of course. For example, i'm limited to an odd 87mb :eek:
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Oh thank you! So I have an option for 40 mb in my bios, the HD I found its 40mb, just replace and set the option for 40mb and will just work fine? Thank you!
 
Its a Quantum Corporation ProDrive ELS 42AT. The Toshiba onde its a Conner CP3044. Quantum has
Cylinders 968 PIO Mode(s) 2
W/R Heads 5 DMA Mode(s)
Sectors/Track 17

While conner has
Sectors: 17
Heads: 2
Disks: 1
Buffer Size: 8KB, segmented, adaptive
Average Seek: 25 ms
Single Track 8 ms
Rotation Speed/Avg. Latency 3557 rpm / 8.4 ms
Transfer Rate to/from media 1.5 MB/sec
Transfer Rate to/from buffer 4.5 MB/sec
TPI (Tracks Per Inch) 1400
BPI (KBits Per Inch) 30,871
Size 1.0" Height x 4.0" Wide x 5.75" Depth
Weight 1.1 lbs
http://theref.mfarris.com/hard_drives/quantum/quantum_pro_drive_els-42at.html

http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0036.htm
 
In my experience the early IDE drives and BIOSes were not nearly as accommodating of different drive parameters as more modern ones, so I'm not quite as certain as Jack that it will work as is.

However, if it doesn't I think you could still use a DDO to do the translation; FWIW I have a non-standard 80MB drive in my T3100e. Another option would be to modify the drive parameter table in the BIOS but that's perhaps not convenient for you and probably not necessary anyway.

Maybe someone else can add something to the thread?
 
MikeS said:
In my experience the early IDE drives and BIOSes were not nearly as accommodating of different drive parameters as more modern ones, so I'm not quite as certain as Jack that it will work as is.

However, if it doesn't I think you could still use a DDO to do the translation; FWIW I have a non-standard 80MB drive in my T3100e. Another option would be to modify the drive parameter table in the BIOS but that's perhaps not convenient for you and probably not necessary anyway.

Maybe someone else can add something to the thread?
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but how do I enable ddo?
 
Put it in and see what happens, no point waiting for us.

DDO is software that lets you access larger drives than what your system supports. Since you're putting in a 40Mb drive to replace a 40Mb drive - there is no point in worrying about a DDO right now.

There is two things I'm cautious of - but we can't be sure until you've installed it:

- Toshiba detecting the drive only has 968 cylinders when it was expecting 980 (in which case you'll have to try setting it to 20Mb, and if that passes, then look at installing a DDO)
- Toshiba detecting it's hard drive model number no longer begins with "CP" and refusing to talk to it (I can't remember what models or BIOS versions do this).

Hopefully you just plug it in and it works.
 
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